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    England and Australia will be granted additional reviews during the forthcoming Ashes series as part of a change to the controversial Decision Review System, the International Cricket Council said on Wednesday.

    At a meeting of the ICC's chief executives' committee at the global governing body's Dubai headquarters, officials agreed the number of reviews will be "topped-up" to two after 80 overs of a Test innings.

    Currently, teams are only permitted a maximum of two unsuccessful reviews per innings.

    The new playing conditions will be trialled from October 1, meaning they will be in force for the Ashes which begin with the first Test in Brisbane starting on November 21.

    Wednesday's statement from the ICC came after England's recent 3-0 Ashes series win at home to Australia was beset by numerous rows over the use of DRS, with both sides unhappy at different times.

    Things got so bad the ICC took the highly unusual step of sending their general manager of cricket, Geoff Allardice, over to England to meet the teams midway through the series in a bid to address their concerns.

    One repeated complaint centred around the third umpire's use of DRS and the way in which the replay official interpreted their remit while another problem area focused on the reliability of the Hotspot thermal imaging device in detecting thin nicks.

    In response to these issues, and a technology trial conducted during the third Ashes Test at Manchester's Old Trafford ground, the ICC said they'd set up a Working Group to look at ways of improving both DRS and the training of umpires.

    Officials also suggested a Real-Time Snickometer - currently used by television broadcasters covering matches but not part of the DRS - could be added to the list of tools at the third umpire's disposal.

    "The CEC (chief executives' committee) agreed a Working Group be constituted to consider how the ICC should best use technology in umpire decision-making in the future," the ICC statement said.

    "The considerations of the group will be wide ranging and include a review of the objectives and philosophies of using technology, the technologies, protocols and procedures as well as the role and training of television umpires.

    "It was also agreed that a trial will be conducted whereby a team's referrals will be topped-up to two reviews after 80 overs of an innings.

    "This trial will start from 1 October 2013 in all Test matches in which the DRS is used, with the results being monitored and considered by the Working Group."

    As for adding 'Snicko' to the DRS, the statement said: "Noting that most of the contentious decisions relate to faint edges, the performance of the Real-Time Snickometer during the ICC Champions Trophy 2013 and the Ashes, and the potential to use this technology to assist the umpires in making these decisions was discussed.

    "An independent assessment of this technology will be conducted before a decision is made on its inclusion in the list of approved DRS technologies."

    One Ashes controversy that had nothing to do with DRS concerned the umpires' decision to take the players off the field for bad light during the ultimately drawn final Test at The Oval in south London when England were just 21 runs adrift of victory, with the floodlights on.

    There has also long been a feeling spectators are also being short-changed by time-wasting tactics such as slow over-rates.

    But a meeting of leading match officials has promised a clampdown and the ICC said: "The CEC also endorsed the umpires' intention to become far stricter on poor over-rates and time wasting and to maximise playing time in conditions where it is safe to do so."

    Meanwhile two white balls, one from each end, will continue to be used during a one-day international innings although this will be reduced to one ball when ODIS are cut to fewer than 25 overs in the first innings

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    I don't know a lot about cricket, so please indulge what may be a stupid question.

    The DRS has been lambasted on this forum by some posters who know a lot about cricket. It seems to the untrained eye that the system is, in itself, flawed. Does that mean that giving teams another two bites at the rotten cherry is going to fix it?

    Please clarify the issues for me, because this seems to be a bloody stupid idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    I don't know a lot about cricket, so please indulge what may be a stupid question.

    The DRS has been lambasted on this forum by some posters who know a lot about cricket. It seems to the untrained eye that the system is, in itself, flawed. Does that mean that giving teams another two bites at the rotten cherry is going to fix it?

    Please clarify the issues for me, because this seems to be a bloody stupid idea!
    The system is sound. It is the umpires who use the system that are flawed.

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    coz Stone Cold says so

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    ummmm aren't the umpires part of the system?
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    I am a cricket traditionalist and would like to see the DRS gone go back to when we were taught as youngsters it doesn't matter what you think once the umpire puts his finger up you accept his decision and walk of the ground with the bat under your arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    ummmm aren't the umpires part of the system?
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    They are but they clearly don't know how to use the technology, look at the Usman Khwaja decision as an example.

    Problem is neither do Captains who are using DRS as a game tactic

    A system that was supposed to used to get rid of the "howler" like the Stuart Broad decision is instead being used on 50/50 LBW calls in the hope of jagging a wicket. So when you have a clear example of a side being dudded they cannot appeal the decision because they gambled earlier on.

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    Bump!!

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    is it just me or are the ashes being played more often now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    is it just me or are the ashes being played more often now ?
    its because of the Olympics it was pushed back and then played as normal so yes the last 2 were very close the next one wont be for 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAFFA View Post
    its because of the Olympics it was pushed back and then played as normal so yes the last 2 were very close the next one wont be for 2 years.
    This series was brought forward by 12 months as the Cricket World Cup in 2015 would immediately follow the Ashes in 2014/15 and England didn't want to be out here for 6/7 months straight.

    Next series is in 2015

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    Because they would have to take a bath too often

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    Caught at slip fishing at ball he could have comfortably left - like the 3 before it

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