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    Referee's non-decision destroyed us: Mitchell

    Wayne Smith | May 11, 2009

    Article from: The Australian

    WESTERN Force coach John Mitchell has called on SANZAR to drop Marius Jonker from its Super 14 match officials panel after the Perth club's bid for a semi-final berth was ended by an astonishing non-decision by the South African referee.

    Nine minutes from full-time in Cape Town yesterday, Jonker let stand a stunning 70m Stormers try finished off by young fullback Joe Pietersen, despite the fact Force outside centre Ryan Cross was knocked over in a gridiron-style block by opposite number Dylan des Fountain just as he was about to make a movement-halting tackle.

    That touchdown boosted the Stormers' lead to 25-17 and meant that Matt Giteau's 78th-minute try to pull the Force up to 24-25 had no bearing on the outcome, other than to secure for the Force a meaningless consolation point that leaves them stranded in eighth place on the ladder, six points adrift of the top four.

    Not even a bonus-point victory by the Force over the Highlanders at Subiaco Oval next Saturday would make up the lost ground.

    Mitchell was ropeable after the match, labelling the non-decision "horrendous" and pointing out that des Fountain's cynical block was so obvious that a number of players stopped running, anticipating the referee's whistle.

    "Something has to be done about a decision like that (when it) is so costly,"

    Mitchell said. "That person (Jonker) shouldn't referee another Super 14 game or he should be disciplined or suffer some consequence.

    "That is not acceptable at this level of football. It really needs to be looked into. It shouldn't just be swept under the carpet."

    Mitchell said he had confronted Jonker, a senior Test referee, about his non-ruling. "He said 'sorry'. We'll deal with this from a club point of view. It shouldn't just be my point of view," Mitchell said.

    The Force's controversial elimination from the play-offs race has robbed Giteau's farewell to Perth of all its drama and significance.

    Rugby WA had been hoping that the Force would return from its two-match tour of South Africa with at least a mathematical chance of figuring in the semi-finals if it could beat the Highlanders in the final round.

    In a season when crowd numbers at Subiaco Oval have almost been in free-fall, officials had hoped the prospect of seeing Giteau marshall the team for one last heroic effort in his farewell appearance for the Force might have mobilised the Blue Army.

    Of course, it is not just Giteau who is departing but also four other Wallabies - Drew Mitchell, Josh Valentine, Scott Staniforth and Tai McIsaac.

    And it is not just the players who are moving on but the Force itself, with the club abandoning Subiaco Oval, its original home, and moving next season to the rectangular ground at Members Equity Stadium.

    That scenario is now dead.

    It may have been that Jonker was unsighted but until that point his assistant referees had been eagle-eyed to the point of absurdity in detecting off-the-ball incidents.

    Touch judge Christie du Preez stopped the Force cold as it was building towards a try in the fifth minute to report number eight Tamati Horua for shouldering aside a Stormers defender. Then, two minutes later, he was responsible for a Stormers try by lock Hilton Lobberts being disallowed when he reported an unrelated earlier incident in which Force halfback Valentine was pushed over by winger Sireli Naqelevuki.

    Yet neither du Preez nor the other assistant referee, Willie Roos, spotted des Fountain's blatant interference on Cross to clear a path for a flying Pietersen in the build-up to his try.

    It might not just be the chance to play for a place in the finals that is missing on Saturday, with hooker McIsaac an unlikely starter because of a calf muscle strain.
    It will be a cruel irony if the former Test hooker misses his last game for the Force because he is the only player to have featured in all 51 matches since the club came into being in 2006. Indeed, it may be the 34-year-old has played his last game as his move to Japan is not as a footballer but as a rookie coach with Honda.


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    that try angered me!

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    This same thing happened to Daniel Braid in the Reds narrow loss to the Highlanders. It was shocking interference that allowed the Highlanders a try when the Reds had controlled the match until that point. The result was a narrow loss for the Reds when a win would have lifted their spirits and maybe their season.

    Too often this year, results (and team fortunes) have been wrecked by very poor officiating.

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    anyone got a video of the incident, was a little too drunk to realise...

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    Looked even worse than this when shown from straight down the ground.

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    i've always disliked Jonker, and this video proves my point. did anyone else notice that there were a few high tackles made by the Stormers that went unnoticed to all of the judges!?

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    extract: It will be a cruel irony if the former Test hooker misses his last game for the Force because he is the only player to have featured in all 51 matches since the club came into being in 2006.


    Mitchell should play him anyway even if it is just for 10 minutes so he can address the crowd and have played in all matches so far... Nothing to loose it would be a gracious statement for Tai....

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    I did see the high tackles that weren't brought to justice....Pheew! what a horrible way to finish our season...It sucks...!

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    Drew boy's missed tackle on Cory Jane was a horrible way to finish our season in all reality.

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    I don't buy into the fact the non obstruction call ended our finals hopes.

    Had Dylan Des Fountain not been a complete muppet and scored the try in the first half rather than knock the ball on, it could have totally changed the dynamics of the game and the situation in the last 15 minutes.

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    Yeah, but how the ref failed to see the incident is a joke.

    Should the TMO be allowed to call back decisions due to a missed incident, if play haven't continued? For tries this would probably be quite easy; other infringements may be more problematical.

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    They didn't get a 4 try bonus point anyway
    The Stormers had several tries disallowed and were clearly the better team.
    If they want the answer to the reason they lost, I suggest they replay the tapes of the first 40 minutes......it was poor.
    They could also consider the first game loss to Auckland which was substandard, the draw against the Crusaders and the Hurricanes 2 try miracle in the last 3 minutes.
    It was a poor decision but you get them now and then. Man up
    Poor executon of basics and woeful defence was what cost them the game. They were lucky the Stormers didn't have 40 points on the board at halftime

    ---------- Post added at 13:46 ---------- Previous post was at 13:44 ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by MSB View Post
    Yeah, but how the ref failed to see the incident is a joke.

    Should the TMO be allowed to call back decisions due to a missed incident, if play haven't continued? For tries this would probably be quite easy; other infringements may be more problematical.
    Perfect solution

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    John Mitchell appears to be desperately deflecting the Coaches responsibility for the season’s outcome…

    It's best to leave the Match Officials alone... this one event isn’t why the Force hasn’t made the semis….

    Best to display demure grace in defeat… regardless of the gravity of the disappointment… That’s leadership with dignity…

    I hope the media have got this one wrong about JM....

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    If he said this in the heat of the moment post-game, then hopefully it'll slide, but really, at the end of the day, does a team who has won 5 games out of a possible 12 deserve to be talking about finals football (I actually hadn't realised it was so few before last weekend)?
    Like everyone else has said, if they hadn't been totally pedestrian against the Blues or employed the turnstile approach to defence against the Canes, maybe there'd be cause to mention the few dud decisions that hurt us along the way this year.

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