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    8 games down

    After 8 matches we have 491 pts been scored, with all teams bar Japan scoring (crossing the line that is) at least once....
    Not a bad start really....

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    That makes Australia look even better I felt sorry for the Japs...i wanted them to score a try by say the 10th try for Australia... haha

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    I honestly didn't feel too sorry for them as i was awestruck at the Wallabies performance and didn't want it to end, pure Aussie gold...If anything, i was a little disappointed they kicked those three points....

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    So far the "minnows" are making a mockery of the supposed plan to reduce the comp to 16 in 2011 too...
    If they are kept in I think we will see some genuine upset results by then and that is probably behind why some nations want the reduction.

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    I have a suspicion that the driver for less teams in RWC 2011 is the limited number of grounds and small venue sizes in NZ.
    Note, the disasterous effect of failing to have sufficient infrastructure. It is likely to make the 2011RWC a bit of a farce after the great start at this and other WC's by the "minnows".

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    mm you'd think given that rugby is the religion in NZ that they'd have adequate facilities. I thinks its healthy to have these upsets. And its not like NZ are feeling particularly 'upset' at this point in time. If they don't win this year's world cup though there is going to be blood spilled and 2011 will be a nightmare...actually it'll probably be just as bad if they are the reigning champs...

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    I don't see how limited number of grounds is a legitimate excuse. You could run this tournament with three grounds. Just means more games at each venue. They have five Super 14 teams all with a different stadium, more then enough. I think the main issue for NZ is the cost, apparently it is something like $400,000 to host a team for a week. So if they cut out four teams I think they are saying they'll save around $5-$7 million dollars.

    I agree it would be a shame to cut it down to 16. These teams are just happy to be there. A few cups ago Argentina would have been considered a minnow, and now they are ranked fourth in the world.

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    Well under that basis you suggest hopep, the same argument could be used to cull the top six nations as they are the ones that draw all the extra pesky tourists and revenue...

    c/o www.worldstadiums.com

    Stadia suitable for Rugby:

    New Zealand 20k +


    Auckland/Eden Park 45 472
    Christchurch/Jade Stadium 36 500
    Wellington/Westpac Stadium 36 000
    Auckland/Mt Smart Stadium 35 000
    Rotorua/Rotorua Int'l Stadium 35 000
    Dunedin/Carisbrook 30 000
    Hamilton/Waikato Stadium 27 500
    Whangarei/ITM Stadium 25 000
    Albany/North Harbour Stadium 25 000
    New Plymouth/Yarrow Stadium 25 000
    Christchurch/Queen Elizabeth II Park 20 000

    Japan 30k +

    Yokohoma/Yokohoma Intl' Stadium 72 370
    Saitama/Saitama Stadium 2002 63 700
    Tokyo/Olympic Stadium 57 363
    Shizuoka/Stadium Ecopa 51 349
    Tokyo/Ajinamoto Stadium 50 000
    Osaka/Nagai Stadium 50 000
    Rifu/Miyagi Stadium 49 281 (nb Eden Park 45 472)
    Toyota/Toyota Stadium 45 000
    Hiroshima/Hiroshima Big Arch 45 000
    Kobe/Universiade Memorial 45 000
    Oita/Oita 'Big Eye' Stadium 43 254
    Niigata/Niigata Stadium 42 700
    Sapporo/Sapporo Dome 42 122
    Kashima/Kashima Soccer Stadium 41 800
    Kobe/Kobe Wing Stadium 34 000
    Kumamoto/KKWing Stadium 32 000
    Takamatsu/Kagawa Stadium 30 100
    Higashiosaka/Hanazono Stadium 30 000
    Fukuoka/Hakatanomori Athletic 30 000
    Morioka/Athletic Park Stadium 30 000

    And the ARU were the bad guys for voting for Japan

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    Basically in going for New Zealand and then discussing reducing teams they have put the cart before the horse.
    If you look at the France 07 Stadia in comparison to what New Zealand currently have then it is obvious that ticket prices are going to have to be extraordinarily high or the RWC '11 will run at a major loss.
    Compare the NZ figures above to these:

    France RWC '07:

    Stade de France/Saint-Denis (France) 80 000
    Millennium Stadium/Cardiff (Wales, UK) 72 000
    Murrayfield/Edinburgh (Scotland, UK) 67 800
    Stade Vélodrome/Marseille (France) 60 031
    Parc des Princes/Paris (France) 48 527 (nb Eden Park 45 472)
    Stade Félix Bollaert/Lens (France) 41 649
    Stade de la Beaujoire/Nantes (France) 38 285
    Stade Municipal/Toulouse (France) 36 550
    Stade Geoffroy Guichard/Saint-Etienne (France) 35 615
    Stade de la Mosson/Montpellier (France) 35 500
    Stade Chaban-Delmas/Bordeaux (France) 34 462

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    Quote Originally Posted by frontrow
    After 8 matches we have 491 pts been scored, with all teams bar Japan scoring (crossing the line that is) at least once....
    Not a bad start really....
    In the tipping comp at there is a mystery question each week for a prize. This week you have to predict the total points scored at RWC 2007.

    I have guessed 2,456.

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    I picked 2,207 myself...

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