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    Waratahs v Reds, preview

    Waratahs v Reds, preview

    April 12, 2007 - 3:38pm
    Story by: Sportal


    Venue & time

    Aussie Stadium, Sydney. Saturday 19.40 (AEST).

    Head to head

    Played 11 (Super rugby): Reds 8, Waratahs 2, Drawn 1

    Overall Played 286: Waratahs 182, Reds 92, Drawn 12. (Nice of them to add this bit )

    Last time

    February 11, 2006 (Brisbane). Waratahs 16-12 Reds.

    Walking wounded and team changes

    Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie has promoted feisty young flanker Beau Robinson to the starting side while the Tahs have another new centre pairing with Morgan Turinui at 12 and Ben Jacobs at outside centre. Wallabies No.8 Wycliff Palu also makes a welcome return to the squad from a hamstring injury.

    Eddie Jones is yet to name his side but there shouldn't be too many major changes to last week's line-up except for the possibility of Reds utility back Andrew Walker, who trained lightly this week but is in doubt. Brando Va'aulu will be his replacement. There is also a chance Berrick Barnes may move back to flyhalf in place of teenager Quade Cooper with Andrew Brown to return at centre.

    Form

    Both sides are having a shocking year and can lay some blame upon injuries to key players. Neither has won since round one way back in February. Recently, the Waratahs were poor against the Bulls and Stormers then turned it around to almost beat the Crusaders before being outclassed by the Brumbies last week. They play patches of good rugby but it is all too rare.

    The Reds were flogged last start by the Sharks but were somehow still in it at half-time. They were competitive against the Highlanders, Lions and Chiefs but still managed to lose. They have been experimenting with a young line-up who is unfamiliar with how to win.

    Who's hot

    Waratahs wingers Lote Tuqiri and Lachlan Turner continue to be the best of an underperforming bunch while the front row of hooker Adam Freier and props Benn Robinson and Al Baxter matched it with their Brumbies counterparts last start. David Lyons has been getting fitter and better each start.

    Reds skipper John Roe has been a beacon of light in the Reds forwards this season while Croft always gives 100 per cent. Cooper is electric at times but mistake ridden, Walker is always dangerous, while Barnes is a quality player.

    Teams

    Waratahs:

    1. Benn Robinson,
    2. Adam Freier (c),
    3. Al Baxter,
    4. Ben Hand,
    5. Will Caldwell,
    6. Rocky Elsom,
    7. Beau Robinson ,
    8. David Lyons,

    9. Josh Valentine,
    10 .Sam Norton-Knight,
    11. Lote Tuqiri,
    12. Morgan Turinui [vc],
    13. Ben Jacobs,
    14. Lachie Turner,
    15. Peter Hewat.

    16. Tatafu Polota-Nau,
    17. Matt Dunning,
    18. Dean Mumm,
    19. Wycliff Palu,
    20. Josh Holmes,
    21. Kurtley Beale,
    22. Sam Harris.

    Reds (Confirmed):

    1. Tama Tuirirangi,
    2. Stephen Moore,
    3. David Te Moana,
    4. Hugh McMeniman,
    5. James Horwill,
    6. Mitch Chapman,
    7. David Croft,
    8. John Roe, (c),

    9. Nic Berry,
    10. Berrick Barnes,
    11. Peter Hynes,
    12. Andrew Brown
    13. Ben Tune,
    14. Andrew Walker,
    15. Clinton Schifcofske.

    16. Sean Hardman,
    17. Herman Hunt,
    18. Ed O'Donoghue,
    19. Tom McVerry,
    20. Will Genia,
    21. Lloyd Johansson,
    22. Quade Cooper.

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    gonna be close but i am going for and i think reds will get there first win for a while.

    reds by 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazza93
    reds will get there first win for a while.

    reds by 5
    My soft spot for the Tahs must be well and truly gone cause I tend to agree and the only thing I'm thinking about is which one to tip.

    Which way are you gonna jump Gerry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs
    Reds skipper John Roe has been a beacon of light in the Reds forwards this season while Croft always gives 100 per cent. Cooper is electric at times but mistake ridden, Walker is always dangerous, while Barnes is a quality player.
    Was there some late breaking news on Walker? I heard he wasn't playing and that Cooper was on the bench.

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    I'm thinking the Reds; But Tahs in Sydney so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta
    My soft spot for the Tahs must be well and truly gone cause I tend to agree and the only thing I'm thinking about is which one to tip.

    Which way are you gonna jump Gerry?
    I'm so far in front now Shasta it doesnt matter...

    Thats maybe a good thing we dont have to reveal our "2nd team" loyalties..

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    Reds now confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travelling_gerry
    I'm so far in front now Shasta it doesnt matter...
    I wasn't referring to your ravenous VCash appetite Mr VBookie.

    Iwas referring to this:

    11 shasta 45 84 3 4 5 5 4 4 5 3 3 6 6

    You are ranked 11 out of 2,444 tippers in the 2007 Super 14 home and away season.

    As compared to........

    61 travelling_gerry 43 80 1 5 3 5 5 3 6 4 3 5 4

    and........

    62 RUGBYWA 43 82 1 3 5 3 5 5 5 3 3 6 5




    PS please don't do any calculations as you may be able to embarrass me on the score of team loyalty

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    Probably stating the obvious but if Waugh was playing then I would go for the Tahs but their forwrads just don't seem to fire without him. Although if I back the Reds then the Tahs have a fare chance of winning based on my previous tipping on the Tahs games.

    Good team, shame about the shirt and the fans.

    Oops, forgot about Tuqiri....the biggest waste of money on this gods earth.

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    no sailor was the biggest waste of money and lote is the 2nd

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta
    please don't do any calculations as you may be able to embarrass me on the score of team loyalty
    no calculations requird - that little 6 at the end says it all

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    Waugh and Vickerman are unfortunately the equivilent of half our team. Guys like Mumm and Caldwell have done ok in the lineouts but we used to be dominant there. We also used to be able to slow the ball down, possibly half the reason we're letting more tries in (the other half simply being poor defense).

    Who knows, at the end of the day this season was a write off apart from being able to blood a few people. Putting $20 on the Reds by 13+ wouldn't be a bad buy (12/1) but I think the Tahs are gonna do this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach
    no calculations requird - that little 6 at the end says it all
    Ok, ok.........if I win I'll watch replays of the Crusaders demolition on new my giant plasma adorned with sack cloth and ashes for a week

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    Was interested as to how much the League comparison of State of Origin applies, not much it seems.
    May be why all the calls for hatred and death or glory kinda fall on deaf ears now days?

    Waratahs:

    1. Benn Robinson, Sydney, NSW
    2. Adam Freier (c), Sydney, NSW
    3. Al Baxter, Canberra, ACT
    4. Ben Hand, Sydney, NSW
    5. Will Caldwell, Young, NSW
    6. Rocky Elsom, Melbourne, VIC (via Nudgee Gerry )
    7. Beau Robinson , Alice Springs, NT
    8. David Lyons, Orange, NSW
    9. Josh Valentine, Newcastle, NSW
    10 .Sam Norton-Knight, Canberra, ACT
    11. Lote Tuqiri, Suva, Fiji
    12. Morgan Turinui [vc], Sydney, NSW
    13. Ben Jacobs, Sydney, NSW
    14. Lachie Turner, Sydney, NSW
    15. Peter Hewat. Inverell, NSW (also via Nudgee - edit Gerry)
    16. Tatafu Polota-Nau, Sydney, NSW
    17. Matt Dunning, Calgary, Canada
    18. Dean Mumm, Auckland, NZ
    19. Wycliff Palu, Sydney, NSW
    20. Josh Holmes, Sydney, NSW
    21. Kurtley Beale, Sydney, NSW
    22. Sam Harris. Auckland NZ

    Reds:

    1. Tama Tuirirangi, Taranaki, NZ
    2. Stephen Moore, Khamis, Saudi Arabia
    3. David Te Moana, Opotiki, NZ
    4. Hugh McMeniman, Brisbane, Qld
    5. James Horwill, Brisbane, Qld
    6. Mitch Chapman, Sydney, NSW
    7. David Croft, Brisbane, Qld
    8. John Roe, (c), Brisbane, Qld
    9. Nic Berry, Brisbane, Qld
    10. Berrick Barnes, Brisbane, Qld
    11. Peter Hynes, Brisbane, Qld
    12. Andrew Brown Rockhampton, Qld
    13. Ben Tune, Brisbane, Qld
    14. Andrew Walker, Shoalhaven, NSW
    15. Clinton Schifcofske. Moranbah, Qld
    16. Sean Hardman, Brisbane, Qld
    17. Herman Hunt, Auckland, NZ
    18. Ed O'Donoghue, London, England
    19. Tom McVerry, Melbourne, VIC
    20. Will Genia, PNG
    21. Lloyd Johansson, Melbourne, VIC
    22. Quade Cooper Waikato, NZ

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