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    2024 Melbourne Rebels Squad Dispersal

    This may end up being a pretty morbid exercise through a Western Australian Rugby lens, but necessary to see the folly of "stronger as four".

    Rugby Australia Contract 2025 (To be confirmed, taken from All Rugby Squad listing)
    Retained in Australian Super Rugby
    Retained in Australian Club Rugby
    Lost to Overseas Rugby Union
    Lost to Rugby League
    * Announced prior to cessation of Rebels Franchise

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    Pone FA'AMAUSILI Super Rugby Moana Pasifika
    Cabous ELOFF
    Isaac AEDO KAILEA Super Rugby Waratahs
    Matt GIBBON Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Sam TALAKAI United Rugby Championship Glasgow Warriors
    Taniela TUPOU Super Rugby Waratahs
    Alex MAFI Japan Rugby League One Tokyo Sungoliath
    Ethan DOBBINS Super Rugby Waratahs
    Jordan UELESE France Top 14 Montpellier Hérault
    Angelo SMITH Super Rugby Waratahs
    Josh CANHAM Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Luke CALLAN Yakult Levins Toda Japan
    Lukhan SALAKAIA-LOTO Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Tuaina Taii TUALIMA Super Rugby Brumbies
    Brad WILKIN USA Major League Rugby San Diego Legion Rugby
    Daniel MAIAVA NZ NPC Southland Stags
    Josh KEMENY English Premiership Rugby Northampton Saints*
    Maciu NABOLAKASI
    Rob LEOTA Super Rugby Waratahs
    Vaiolini EKUASI Super Rugby Western Force
    Zac HOUGH QRU Hospital Cup Wests
    Jack MAUNDER France D2 Agen
    James TUTTLE Retired
    Ryan LOUWRENS Top 14 Montpellier
    Carter GORDON NRL Gold Coast Titans
    Mason GORDON Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    David FELIUAI Super Rugby Brumbies
    David VAIHU
    Divad PALU Super Rugby Western Force
    Lebron NAEA
    Lukas RIPLEY NZ NPC Hawke's Bay
    Matt PROCTOR Super Rugby Western Force
    Nick JOOSTE USA Major League Rugby San Diego Legion Rugby
    Andrew KELLAWAY Super Rugby Waratahs*
    Darby LANCASTER Super Rugby Waratahs
    Filipo DAUGUNU Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Glen VAIHU Queensland Cup Souths Logan Magpies
    Joe PINCUS Potentially retired to a business role
    Lachie ANDERSON Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Jake STRACHAN NZ NPC Southland Stags

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    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

    Any thoughts? X?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

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    With respect to the idea and it's motivation Shasta, I really don't think having Moana based in Western Sydney is any better than basing them in Auckland.

    Anywhere that isn't a home base on the islands would be second rate, like we've seen for the Drua. I'm happy for it to become a "work on" over several years (first year have a couple of home games on the islands, maybe one each on Tonga and Samoa, then increase each year) but using an existing franchise to cover up the impact of a catastrophically stupid decision such as this is unreasonable.

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    The point of difference is that Rugby is king in NZ and most have "their" team already. Western Sydney has absolutely no interest invested in the Waratahs. Probably similar disdain to a lot of us actually. But the huge PI population, I'm pretty sure, is still interested in Rugby.

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if there are less than 6 green names on that list once it’s fully updated. If you aren’t in the eyes of wallaby selectors - why would you want to sign on with the parent organisation that has just cut you loose?

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    Have updated with the 15 that All Rugby had listed as contracted to 2025.
    There is allegedly 17 with RA contracts that will be honoured if placements accepted.
    Will endeavour to tidy up confirmations as they come to hand.

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    I would also think Rebels Academy player and Australian U20's Flyhalf, Joey Fowler, will be hotly pursued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    I would also think Rebels Academy player and Australian U20's Flyhalf, Joey Fowler, will be hotly pursued.
    I would think JT and the team would be in contact with a few of their Academy players; its a key block in the house and it'd help provide some reassurance to the next-gen there is Vic - for those that can / will move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernow View Post
    I would think JT and the team would be in contact with a few of their Academy players; its a key block in the house and it'd help provide some reassurance to the next-gen there is Vic - for those that can / will move.
    Perhaps a proactive step for Force/Twiggy to take.
    Build some model that facilitates training for local Academy in Melbourne, then flying them to WA for blocks of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

    Any thoughts? X?
    I am a little out of the loop when it comes to Sydney Subbies Rugby since the demise of my Club 2 years ago.

    However, if you were to do a Circle on a map with Penrith as the centre and go out 50km you would have 1 Shute shield Club. A Division 1 Subbies Club a Division 2 Subbies Club, a couple in Division 3 and a few in Division 5 and 6 with 2 trying to get into Subbies Rugby that have started from scratch in the last 5 years.

    The number of South Pacific Islander background players is mind-boggling tho most are playing League because they are paying money to players. Subbies Rugby is strictly amateur. Even tho the high majority would prefer to play Union - money is king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    Perhaps a proactive step for Force/Twiggy to take.
    Build some model that facilitates training for local Academy in Melbourne, then flying them to WA for blocks of time.
    I like your thinking - that would be a coup

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