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    2024 Melbourne Rebels Squad Dispersal

    This may end up being a pretty morbid exercise through an Australian Rugby lens, but necessary to see the folly of "stronger as four".

    Rugby Australia Contract 2025 (To be confirmed, taken from All Rugby Squad listing)
    Retained in Australian Super Rugby
    Lost to Overseas Rugby Union
    Lost to Rugby League
    * Announced prior to cessation of Rebels Franchise

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    Pone FA'AMAUSILI
    Cabous ELOFF
    Isaac AEDO KAILEA
    Matt GIBBON Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Sam TALAKAI
    Taniela TUPOU
    Alex MAFI Japan Rugby League One Tokyo Sungoliath
    Ethan DOBBINS
    Jordan UELESE
    Angelo SMITH
    Josh CANHAM Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Luke CALLAN Japan
    Lukhan SALAKAIA-LOTO
    Tuaina Taii TUALIMA Super Rugby Brumbies
    Brad WILKIN
    Daniel MAIAVA
    Josh KEMENY English Premiership Rugby Northampton Saints*
    Maciu NABOLAKASI
    Rob LEOTA
    Vaiolini EKUASI
    Zac HOUGH
    Jack MAUNDER
    James TUTTLE
    Ryan LOUWRENS
    Carter GORDON NRL Gold Coast Titans
    Mason GORDON
    David FELIUAI
    David VAIHU
    Divad PALU
    Lebron NAEA
    Lukas RIPLEY
    Matt PROCTOR
    Nick JOOSTE
    Andrew KELLAWAY Super Rugby Waratahs*
    Darby LANCASTER
    Filipo DAUGUNU Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Glen VAIHU
    Joe PINCUS
    Lachie ANDERSON Super Rugby Queensland Reds
    Jake STRACHAN

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    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

    Any thoughts? X?

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    Josh Kemmeny to Northampton Saints
    Andrew Kellaway to NSW Waratahs

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

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    With respect to the idea and it's motivation Shasta, I really don't think having Moana based in Western Sydney is any better than basing them in Auckland.

    Anywhere that isn't a home base on the islands would be second rate, like we've seen for the Drua. I'm happy for it to become a "work on" over several years (first year have a couple of home games on the islands, maybe one each on Tonga and Samoa, then increase each year) but using an existing franchise to cover up the impact of a catastrophically stupid decision such as this is unreasonable.

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    The point of difference is that Rugby is king in NZ and most have "their" team already. Western Sydney has absolutely no interest invested in the Waratahs. Probably similar disdain to a lot of us actually. But the huge PI population, I'm pretty sure, is still interested in Rugby.

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if there are less than 6 green names on that list once it’s fully updated. If you aren’t in the eyes of wallaby selectors - why would you want to sign on with the parent organisation that has just cut you loose?

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    Have updated with the 15 that All Rugby had listed as contracted to 2025.
    There is allegedly 17 with RA contracts that will be honoured if placements accepted.
    Will endeavour to tidy up confirmations as they come to hand.

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    I would also think Rebels Academy player and Australian U20's Flyhalf, Joey Fowler, will be hotly pursued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    I would also think Rebels Academy player and Australian U20's Flyhalf, Joey Fowler, will be hotly pursued.
    I would think JT and the team would be in contact with a few of their Academy players; its a key block in the house and it'd help provide some reassurance to the next-gen there is Vic - for those that can / will move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernow View Post
    I would think JT and the team would be in contact with a few of their Academy players; its a key block in the house and it'd help provide some reassurance to the next-gen there is Vic - for those that can / will move.
    Perhaps a proactive step for Force/Twiggy to take.
    Build some model that facilitates training for local Academy in Melbourne, then flying them to WA for blocks of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    It's probably a rush for next year, but I wonder if it's worth considering shifting the Pasifika franchise to Western Sydney? Given the great support the Pacific Nations Mungo teams have had out there, and the overwhelming number of NRL players who have put their allegiances there, I think it would be a winner. The support Pacifika has (not) had across ditch it probably makes financial sense so World Rugby might be favorable. There is a closure of Panthers Stadium next year for a $300M upgrade and increase to 25000 seats. RL is king out there but I'd put that down to ARU inaction and NRL investment rather than non-interest in Rugby.
    Of course the NZRU would likely be a spanner in the works because their teams would have to travel further for one match every second year. Boo Hoo.

    Any thoughts? X?
    I am a little out of the loop when it comes to Sydney Subbies Rugby since the demise of my Club 2 years ago.

    However, if you were to do a Circle on a map with Penrith as the centre and go out 50km you would have 1 Shute shield Club. A Division 1 Subbies Club a Division 2 Subbies Club, a couple in Division 3 and a few in Division 5 and 6 with 2 trying to get into Subbies Rugby that have started from scratch in the last 5 years.

    The number of South Pacific Islander background players is mind-boggling tho most are playing League because they are paying money to players. Subbies Rugby is strictly amateur. Even tho the high majority would prefer to play Union - money is king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    Perhaps a proactive step for Force/Twiggy to take.
    Build some model that facilitates training for local Academy in Melbourne, then flying them to WA for blocks of time.
    I like your thinking - that would be a coup

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