Seven Force Players to Keep Training ahead of Winter Tests

[Burgs]

Hang on Burgs...The real question? Would the benifits outweigh the costs.

That's exactly the question.
Not saying he hasn't become a solid Test contender, not saying he isn't potentially the best available for Australia.
Am saying there's no way he is worth the money he would command elsewhere to come to the Force.
We are better served getting 3-4 really good Locks for the same money.

[Burgs]

Are you talking about Skelton or Tupou here?

Skelton's issue of not jumping in the line-out isn't so much of an issue if we have Williams at 6 (and possibly Anstee at 8!) Any player who can hold down a starting lock position for the European Champions is going to improve the Force.

If you are talking about Tupou, I agree. I've always thought he's overrated, as he can't scrum properly (continually bores in) and his tackling is a liability. A year to two in the NH would solve his technical issues, and if he gets the right coaching team should solve his weight and injury issues. However, I do wonder if what's really holding him back is the top 4" (cf Nemani Nadolo)

Can it be both?
In this instance I was talking about Skelton.
Even if both/either were the best in the world, it would not be a value proposition for them to be at the Force in 2025.

[GIGS20]

as he can't scrum properly (continually bores in)

to be fair, his illegal scrummaging isn't just permitted in Super Rugby, it's celebrated.

We aren't building a team to take on English and South Africal front rows with refs being assessed by World Rugby, we're playing against New Zealanders, who get away with the same crap in front of refs who allow it.

[Burgs]

Latest update sourced from The Roar comments have the Reds-Rebels-Force-Waratahs 46 man train on Squad as-

Alex Hodgman
Zane Nonggorr
Isaac Kailea
Matt Gibbon
Taniela Tupou
Sam Talakai
Josh Nasser
Matt Faessler
Jordan Uelese
Ryan Smith
Angus Blyth
Izack Rodda
Miles Amatosero
Josh Canham
Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
Jeremy Williams
Seru Uru
John Bryant
Harry Wilson
Langi Gleeson
Rob Leota
Liam Wright
Fraser McReight
Charlie Gamble
Carlo Tizzano
Tate McDermott
Nic White
Jake Gordon
Tom Lynagh
Ben Donaldson
Tane Edmed
Carter Gordon
Josh Flook
Hunter Paisami
Bayley Kuenzle
Hamish Stewart
Filipo Daugunu
Lalakai Foketi
David Feliuai
Dylan Pietsch
Lachie Anderson
Darby Lancaster
Tim Ryan
Jock Campbell
Andrew Kellaway
Kurtley Beale

[Garry Owen]

Latest update sourced from The Roar comments have the Reds-Rebels-Force-Waratahs 46 man train on Squad as-

Alex Hodgman
Zane Nonggorr
Isaac Kailea
Matt Gibbon
Taniela Tupou
Sam Talakai
Josh Nasser
Matt Faessler
Jordan Uelese
Ryan Smith
Angus Blyth
Izack Rodda
Miles Amatosero
Josh Canham
Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
Jeremy Williams
Seru Uru
John Bryant
Harry Wilson
Langi Gleeson
Rob Leota
Liam Wright
Fraser McReight
Charlie Gamble
Carlo Tizzano
Tate McDermott
Nic White
Jake Gordon
Tom Lynagh
Ben Donaldson
Tane Edmed
Carter Gordon
Josh Flook
Hunter Paisami
Bayley Kuenzle
Hamish Stewart
Filipo Daugunu
Lalakai Foketi
David Feliuai
Dylan Pietsch
Lachie Anderson
Darby Lancaster
Tim Ryan
Jock Campbell
Andrew Kellaway
Kurtley Beale

Josh nasser has only started one game for the Reds this year, how can they justify his selection over Horton ?

[Burgs]

Josh nasser has only started one game for the Reds this year, how can they justify his selection over Horton ?

Totally agree, if you want a mobile defensive capacity Rake to be on the Bench, then very hard to go past Horton for mine.

[Kernow]

Totally agree, if you want a mobile defensive capacity Rake to be on the Bench, then very hard to go past Horton for mine.

Nine Force players would be too many for NSW to palate. Horto hard done by in my book, he's had a rippa season

[Kernow]

Latest update sourced from The Roar comments have the Reds-Rebels-Force-Waratahs 46 man train on Squad as-

Carter Gordon

He ruled out now he's signed with the NRL?

[Burgs]

He ruled out now he's signed with the NRL?

I saw somewhere they wouldn't release him before the end of contract, which would be either 30 June or end of International Selections, but I can't see him getting a look in as a marginal selection anyway.

[Burgs]