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    Another bitter sweet movement, like Tim Samson, Kyle has been great to get us to where we are and has been enormous for the club.

    However with the likes of Bayley Kunzel and hopefully Poolman in the future, the 12 position looks locked up and that is really where he belongs. He has done well for us at 13 but is not a genuine 13 and we need a bigger bodied 13 to help us move to the next level.

    He has been a great clubman and always has time to engage with the fans and is one of the last to leave the field each week. On the upside he gets to move on his own terms and I am sure Lyon will enjoy having around the club.

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    Hear hear.

    13 has certainly been a bit of a bogey position in recent years hasn't it?

    Hopefully his departure will generate an opportunity for somebody to convincingly make the jersey theirs

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    A poster on GAGR is suggesting that Tiaan Falcon is a possibility to follow Simon Cron to the Force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by todd4 View Post
    A poster on GAGR is suggesting that Tiaan Falcon is a possibility to follow Simon Cron to the Force.
    Would be an interesting get.

    He can kick a bit, and has a Hawkes Bay connection.

    He would make a good back up at twelve and/or ten with Pasitoa and Kunzel the incumbents, however early on in his career was prone to injury so we may need to tread wearily

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    Quote Originally Posted by todd4 View Post
    A poster on GAGR is suggesting that Tiaan Falcon is a possibility to follow Simon Cron to the Force.
    that may be the case, but is it any different to Tim Horan speculating that every player who is currently playing International rugby might be going to the Rebels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    that may be the case, but is it any different to Tim Horan speculating that every player who is currently playing International rugby might be going to the Rebels?
    True, but you take what you can get on a slow news day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by todd4 View Post
    True, but you take what you can get on a slow news day.
    Good response, carry on

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    To not flog the list thread.

    Has fainga'a been confirmed?

    Also Rodda signed onto 2024
    https://wallabies.rugby/news/izack-r...-rugby-2022228

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo86 View Post
    To not flog the list thread.

    Has fainga'a been confirmed?

    Also Rodda signed onto 2024
    https://wallabies.rugby/news/izack-r...-rugby-2022228
    Thanks for keeping speculation here

    Looks like the FF articles all says he's about to sign... so I guess not at this stage.

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    Just looking at TIF's signings thread, in the list, there are 18 players who are contracted till the end of this season (not counting WTS players, who might revert to WTS contracts next year)

    6 have already signed on elsewhere and the rumour is a dozen leaving

    Basically that means 1/2 our off-contract players are out the door. Now some of that is unsurprising/expected but that's a pretty big number

    Who would be the 6 you want to see upgraded?

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    From the WTS/EPS upgraded

    Bo Abra
    Ollie Callan
    Alex Masibaka

    To see re-sign

    Tom Robertson
    Feleti Kaitu'u
    Tim Anstee
    Kane Koteka
    Bailey Kuenzle
    Toni Pulu

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    Nick Taylor speaks about a clutch of Junior Wallabies joining us next year.

    You would have to sumise they may be somehow connected to Simon Cron, he was the junior Wallaby coach in 2017 and I thought it would be good to have a look at his squad at the time.

    Looking at the squad a number of have gone well and some have faded as you would expect.

    With a number already contracted, running my eye over the team, the only worthwhile potential acquisitions may be:

    Hockings (Brother played for the Force and lives in WA, also left Reds with Rodda)

    Maddocks (Never sure what you get with him, blows hot and cold but I think better than what we have as a fullback)

    Wright (However cannot see him leaving Reds other than for overseas contract)

    this was his squad:

    SQUAD
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    Harry Johnson-Holmes, NSW

    Harry Chapman, NSW

    Vaauli Faamausili, Victoria

    Dan Matthew, NSW

    Hooker

    Tom Horton, NSW

    Efi Maafu, Queensland

    Sama Malolo, Western Australia

    Lock

    Harry Hockings, Queensland

    Angus Blyth, Queensland

    Ryan McCauley, NSW

    Darcy Swain, ACT

    Backrow

    Lachlan Swinton, NSW

    Angus Scott-Young, Queensland

    Reece Hewat, Queensland

    Liam Wright, Queensland

    Angus Allen, ACT

    Scrumhalf

    Harry Nucifora, Queensland

    Ryan Lonergan, ACT

    Theo Strang, NSW

    Flyhalf

    Hamish Stewart , Queensland

    Jack McGregor, Victoria

    Centre

    Tony Hunt, Queensland

    Nick Jooste, ACT

    Dylan Riley, Queensland

    Len Ikitau, ACT

    Wing

    James Ramm, NSW

    Jayden Ngamanu, Queensland

    Fullback

    Semisi Tupou, Victoria

    Jack Maddocks, Victoria

    Food for thought!

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    Oh, did you read the "clutch of Junior Wallabies" comment that way.

    I thought it was a reference to the young guns we picked up from the Ponies this year (Pasitoa, Kuenzle, Tapine)

    Wasn't sure whether any of them were actually junior Wallabies, but was also too lazy to do the research

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    Will be interesting to see which approach we take

    a) raid the other aussie teams (e.g. Faingaa plus others)

    b) try get players back from overseas (e.g. Kerevi, Hockings, McMahon etc)

    or

    c) try and get some more Kiwi's and saffas. Personally I like this option, they would have to be players not in contention for All Blacks, but maybe a little younger than Kahui and Thrush. There are some very good kiwis playing in Japan and probably a lot in the ITM cup that would be better than some of our existing players.

    I know the team should be producing Wallabies eligible players but there is not enough depth for a whole team of that IMO

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    13 has been a problem. I''d really like Hodgo to approach Curtis Rona, if available. Every time I've watched Irish this year he's been one of their top performers. Ollie Hoskins has gone well also and has pretty much cemented himself in the their starting pack. But does that translate well to Super Rugby? Adam Coleman is a no-brainer, but like Rona his price-tag would have a fairly large number on it.

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