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    I agree that the best ncident is red or nothing.

    Scott McLeod's fantasy statement about Barrett "winning the space" and having exclusive rights to do anything he wants until he hits the ground is not supported in any way by the laws of the game.its either reckless and dangerous head contact - red card or accidental - play on

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    There a couple of videos on YouTube where this kind of incident attracts a Red card.

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    Law 9.11 states that a player may not deliberately or recklessly put another in danger.

    The judiciary has obviously determined that jumping studs up is not reckless.

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    It is Nigel Owens' take I'd give the most weight to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    Law 9.11 states that a player may not deliberately or recklessly put another in danger.

    The judiciary has obviously determined that jumping studs up is not reckless.
    Or that the other player is guilty of reckless use of the chin causing an airborne player to fall awkwardly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    It is Nigel Owens' take I'd give the most weight to.
    https://www.theroar.com.au/rugby-uni...ident-1150454/

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    Or that the other player is guilty of reckless use of the chin causing an airborne player to fall awkwardly?
    Law 9.17 a player may not tackle, push, pull or grab a player who is in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    Law 9.17 a player may not tackle, push, pull or grab a player who is in the air.
    Korobiete didn't do any of those things. At the most extreme argument he pushed against Barrett's boot with his face!

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    Barretts foot was there because he was off balance … whether he gave Korobiete a kick at the time as Nigel Owens alluded to ..only he will know ..If he hadn’t made the hit then Korobiete would certainly have been yellow carded for contact in the air .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootsetal06 View Post
    Barretts foot was there because he was off balance … whether he gave Korobiete a kick at the time as Nigel Owens alluded to ..only he will know
    With respect, I think that is wrong. Have another look. Barrett had already secured the ball before he raised his foot another meter or so. I think he got off due to reasonable doubt. Questionable at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootsetal06 View Post
    Barretts foot was there because he was off balance … whether he gave Korobiete a kick at the time as Nigel Owens alluded to ..only he will know ..If he hadn’t made the hit then Korobiete would certainly have been yellow carded for contact in the air .
    Barret was on the way down and had to extend his foot to make contact with koroibetes face, he would likely have landed before koroibete hit him if he hasn't extended his foot

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    In my humble opinion.....

    I believe that

    • Koribete had slowed/paused to allow Jordie Barrett to land.
    • Jordie Barrett knee than foot went out as a counterbalance as he needed to lean back to take the catch.
    • Jordie Barrett's actions were entirely accidental and warranted only a Yellow Card due to the World Rugby Decree of "Thou Shalt Not
      touch the head/face of an opponent as he may snuff it"


    I do have one question for the group to consider.

    Why is it every time (OK maybe not every time, but it's a high percentage) Play is stopped for the Referee to review head high contact why the receiver of the contact isn't sent off for an HIA Review?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .X. View Post
    Why is it every time (OK maybe not every time, but it's a high percentage) Play is stopped for the Referee to review head high contact why the receiver of the contact isn't sent off for an HIA Review?
    Wasnt it after the French captain took a dive that Hooper asked that if this the case then he will be going of for HIA?

    Prior to Hooper asking, it wasnt even going to be considered

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    Quote Originally Posted by .X. View Post
    Why is it every time (OK maybe not every time, but it's a high percentage) Play is stopped for the Referee to review head high contact why the receiver of the contact isn't sent off for an HIA Review?
    A good question, as a HIA allows a short-term sub so the side of the 'victim' theoretically wouldn't be disadvantaged; although an unscrupulous coach/captain could ask his players to target the head of the opposition's star player, as every time they get close to head contact they can then insist that the star player spend time off the pitch getting the HIA!

    On the other hand, Korobiete's incident wouldn't require this, as it wasn't the impact energy to his head which was the issue, but the studs cutting up his face, especially around the eye.

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