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    That was then. Before all NZ went into lockdown, and the NZRU sent the AB's on time off wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    That was then. Before all NZ went into lockdown, and the NZRU sent the AB's on time off wasn't it?
    Apparently the All Blacks were going to be given an the exemption - fly in 7 days before the game, stay in a bubble and do frequent COVID tests. They just had move their flights from Sunday to Saturday.

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    For anyone who thinks TLDR - A reschedule to September 4 is on the cards provided RA can negotiate use of the ground from the AFL. From what I've read this weekend the first 2 weeks of AFL finals were likely to be in Brisbane/Adelaide before the prelims and the Grand Final were here in Perth.

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    After New Zealand Rugby controversially opted out of flying the All Blacks to Perth this week, a solution appears to have been found, with the All Blacks set to leave New Zealand next week. Liam Napier reports.

    The All Blacks are likely to board a plane to Perth next week for the third, rescheduled Bledisloe Cup test against the Wallabies on September 4.

    The difference between next week and last, when New Zealand Rugby sparked an outcry by pulling pin on the All Blacks travelling for the scheduled August 28 Bledisloe test in Perth, is the Rugby Championship destination is expected to be finalised by Tuesday or Wednesday.

    The continued uncertainty surrounding whether Europe, Queensland or South Africa will host the four-nation tournament is the rationale NZ Rugby cited for not sending the All Blacks last Saturday.

    Provided health protocols remain the same, allowing the All Blacks to travel to Perth, stay in a controlled bubble and play seven days later, and Rugby Australia can negotiate with AFL to secure Optus Stadium on September 4, the final sold-out Bledisloe is expected to be staged then.

    Amid the backdrop of seething anger from Australia at the way NZ Rugby has handled the complex situation, the dead rubber Bledisloe, which doubles as the All Blacks' second Rugby Championship fixture, promises to be a tense occasion.

    Like last week, the All Blacks need to leave New Zealand by this Saturday in order to land in Perth a week before the September 4 date.

    Much of the context around NZ Rugby's decision to hold the All Blacks back at late notice, and force Rugby Australia to reschedule the third Bledisloe for a second time, has been overshadowed by furious criticism and some dubious claims, particularly those from RA chief executive Andy Marinos about a lack of consultation.

    Sanzaar held a chief executive meeting last Thursday where NZ Rugby boss Mark Robinson flagged issues facing the All Blacks' departure, including the challenges assembling a group of 60-odd players and management from all parts of the country with domestic flights significantly reduced while New Zealand is in lockdown.

    With no MIQ spots available for the All Blacks until November, once the team leaves New Zealand they cannot return until then. They, therefore, want certainty around the Rugby Championship destination before being away from home for up to 14 weeks.

    Following the Sanzaar meeting the Herald understands Robinson and Marinos spoke two further times on Friday, with the latter well aware of the 2pm deadline to guarantee Queensland's ability to host the Rugby Championship before the All Blacks were willing to fly out.

    The prospect of pushing the third Bledisloe back a week to September 4, in order to allow time for the Rugby Championship situation to be resolved, was raised only to be rejected by Marinos.

    As the deadline loomed, Marinos asked for three additional hours to secure a letter or approval from the Queensland Government that is still yet to arrive and Robinson made it clear that, given logisical challenges, they would not wait that long.

    Having not received assurances from Queensland around the Rugby Championship, NZ Rugby took a hard-line stance to issue its statement that the All Blacks would not be travelling as planned, sparking furious criticism and suggestions from Marinos that he found out via the media.

    One other factor widely overlooked is the quarantine situation facing the Springboks and Pumas. Both teams originally planned to satisfy their two-week quarantine in Sydney, where they were permitted to train during that time. As of last Friday, however, that was no longer the case with the Covid-19 situation deteriorating in Sydney.

    While Perth remains keen to host the third Bledisloe they, too, aren't comfortable with the potential risks associated with welcoming the Boks and Pumas from South Africa, a Covid-19 hot spot.

    Perth therefore changed its stance on staging the Rugby Championship, as had been touted.

    With the Queensland State Government yet to provide assurances it is willing to host the tournament, or clarify the quarantine situation for the Boks and Pumas, much uncertainty surrounds how and where those teams will enter Australia.

    NZ Rugby's move left ticket holders in Perth disillusioned, and Wallabies coach Dave Rennie "bloody angry" as, among other things, his team is now left in limbo.

    The decision to delay travelling is not unprecedented, however. Just last year the Springboks pulled out of playing the Rugby Championship in Australia at the 11th hour citing player welfare. That decision had major ramifications in reducing the tournament to the Tri Nations.

    Sanzaar is set to meet on Monday to determine where the Rugby Championship will be held, with Queensland and Europe essentially in a head-to-head battle. South Africa's inability to host crowds would significantly reduce revenue.

    Europe is enticing for all four nations from a financial point of view and if the third Bledisloe can't be staged in Perth on September 4, there is the prospect of instead playing it at Wembley on October 9.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rug...x=1629610737-1

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    What’s happening at Twickenham on 9 October that means Wembley would stage Bled 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    What’s happening at Twickenham on 9 October that means Wembley would stage Bled 3?
    Nothing appears to be on at Twickenham until the November internationals; maybe they're laying new turf or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    Nothing appears to be on at Twickenham until the November internationals; maybe they're laying new turf or something?
    and Rugby Australia can negotiate with AFL to secure Optus Stadium on September 4,

    I thought the WA taxpayers paid for and WA Gov own Optus Stadium? Why does RA have to negotiate with the AFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSJ View Post
    and Rugby Australia can negotiate with AFL to secure Optus Stadium on September 4,I thought the WA taxpayers paid for and WA Gov own Optus Stadium? Why does RA have to negotiate with the AFL?
    Because the AFL have power that the nzru dreams of

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    They also have the money and foresight to book grounds needed to cover lots of potential covid contingencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSJ View Post
    and Rugby Australia can negotiate with AFL to secure Optus Stadium on September 4,

    I thought the WA taxpayers paid for and WA Gov own Optus Stadium? Why does RA have to negotiate with the AFL?
    I'll add a little more to Shasta's post.

    A couple of years ago the AFL began asking its clubs to book their home grounds for entire weekends for finals to give the AFL full flexibility when scheduling finals fixtures.

    So the AFL has most Friday nights, Saturday's and Sundays booked during September to cover this.

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    looks like its on for Sept 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokendown gunfighter View Post
    looks like its on for Sept 4th
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules View Post
    Source?
    normally hot chilli,but in this case the NZ Herald

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    Chilli source would be more trustworthy

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    A link to the article I assume Gunny is referring to.


    CBF doing a cut and paste so click the link.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rev...PFL3DI35NSXQA/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    A link to the article I assume Gunny is referring to.


    CBF doing a cut and paste so click the link.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rev...PFL3DI35NSXQA/
    Thank you!!

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