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    Hodgo was saying they dont want to get caught out with having a team, but no where to play again. It has nearly happened twice in 3 years now.

    RA have no broadcasting contract yet and Force have no contract with the RA yet, It is possible that there will be no Super AU in 2021, if there is no broadcasting money (or not enough)to use to pay the Brumbies, Tahs, Reds and Rebels players.

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    Australian rugby's stark reality check - and what it means for New Zealand Rugby

    Liam Napier
    9 Sep, 2020 4:58am

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    Rugby Australia faces a stark reality check.

    The dawn of a potentially negligible broadcast deal, which is expected to strip millions from RA's annual budget next year, has brought to an end the bold public statements of recent weeks.

    Claims of issuing New Zealand ultimatums and steadfastly maintaining faith in the sustainability of five Super Rugby franchises is set to be challenged as the realities of attempting to survive next year loom in the form of the fraught financial bottom line.

    Privately, Australian rugby knows drastic cutbacks across all levels of their game may be imminent.

    The tender process for RA's broadcast pitch, which centres on bidders cherry picking different competitions and test matches, closed last Friday and there has been little in the way of positive statements since.

    What we know for sure is offers will reach nowhere near the same $57m-a-year investment RA had been receiving.

    Former RA chief executive Raelene Castle last November knocked back a five-year offer from Fox Sports worth $35m annually in favour of pursuing deals with Optus and free-to-air providers.

    Since Castle's departure in late April, though, some projections now suggest Australia's domestic competition will earn $10m per-season.

    Noises outside the tent do not paint a rosy picture, either.

    Compared to rival codes, Foxtel boss Patrick Delany last week placed Australian rugby well down the pecking order, suggesting a low ball offer from his company at best. He mentioned AFL, NRL, cricket and motorsport as "tier-one sports" and said others were "going to have to adjust".

    "We are now quite fearless of losing a sport," Delany claimed.

    Broadcast revenue funds the game in every rugby nation. This is, therefore, where the rubber meets the road for Australia.

    Interim RA chief executive Rob Clarke had been bullish in public about the future of the domestic game but, behind closed doors, the realities of potentially cutting millions from the budget will be causing serious angst.

    Significantly less broadcast revenue will again test the notion of maintaining five teams and Clarke, a former chief executive of the Melbourne Rebels and Brumbies, may need to be removed from that touch point to avoid a potential conflict.

    The Western Force are clearly anxious about their future. Despite being welcomed back into Australia's domestic competition this season, the Perth-based team on Tuesday confirmed they are in talks with New Zealand Rugby about possible relocation next season.

    Australian rugby will almost certainly be in survival mode next year.

    Should RA opt to maintain its five teams, cuts elsewhere are inevitable. Leading players may be asked to further slash wages which could spark a mass exodus of top-tier talent, while the community game that builds the base is also likely to suffer.

    Castle pulled off a major coup in signing Dave Rennie as Wallabies coach and he will be desperate to retain as many of the next generation as possible. Rennie could soon, however, instead find many of his best assets basing themselves offshore.

    Surviving through to 2022, when a potential trans-Tasman competition is considered more viable in an improved Covid-19 landscape, will be a big ask for Australia.

    New Zealand Rugby is sure to be watching Australia's broadcast developments with interest.

    NZR chief executive Mark Robinson has his own challenges to work through, having stated the preference for an eight-to-10 competition next year that will not eventuate.

    But with broadcast partner Sky secure for the next five years, and Super Rugby Aotearoa proving hugely successful, Robinson is in a much more stable position to plot longer term plans.

    NZR's polarising expression of interest process is understood to have received seven to nine formal applications – outside the five existing franchises. That includes the Bay of Plenty rugby union, Moana Pacific, Kanaloa Hawaii, the Asia Pacific Dragons among others.

    If collaboration can be achieved between some parties it is believed two bids could form credible entities beyond next year.

    By 2022, following another expected season of Super Rugby Aotearoa, New Zealand could have seven teams keen to join an expanded competition.

    How many Australian sides line up in a potential trans-Tasman venture in 2022 is likely to be heavily influenced by their next broadcast deal.

    As much as New Zealand rugby needs Australia, it also needs them to hold their own on and off the pitch.

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    Just quietly, these seven to nine formal applications ... Bay of Plenty rugby union, Moana Pacific, Kanaloa Hawaii, the Asia Pacific Dragons ... will be pushing muck uphill
    unless serious money materialises.

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    Broadcast revenue funds the game in every rugby nation.

    Except in WA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham105 View Post
    Just quietly, these seven to nine formal applications ... Bay of Plenty rugby union, Moana Pacific, Kanaloa Hawaii, the Asia Pacific Dragons ... will be pushing muck uphill
    unless serious money materialises.
    There is serious money behind the Bay of Plenty application according to recent news reports

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSJ View Post
    There is serious money behind the Bay of Plenty application according to recent news reports
    I would think at least some of that comes from a certain Mr Forrest.

    Pretty sure Hawaii was removed from MLR recently weren't they? was that to do with finances?

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    Geez Wayne Smith is worse than each way Albo these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    Broadcast revenue funds the game in every rugby nation.

    Except in WA
    Surely the Force's participation in SuperRugby in 2020 and going forward would entitle them to a share of the revenue, whether they need it or not. After all, they helped raise it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .X. View Post
    Surely the Force's participation in SuperRugby in 2020 and going forward would entitle them to a share of the revenue, whether they need it or not. After all, they helped raise it in the first place.
    There has to be revenue in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    Broadcast revenue funds the game in every rugby nation.
    Except in WA
    Is anybody else nonplussed that an equivalent to Dr Forrest has not appeared in Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney, with cheque book in hand, ready to bail out the QRU, NSWRU or MRRU?

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    Why would they - RA has always had their back. Same was true here, until it was obvious that they didn't. That is when the rubber hit the road here and Andrew Forrest stepped up, but it usually takes something like that (e.g. the Rabbitohs). Whether someone would do similar in those other locations is an unknown, but depending on how everything plays out with GRR I suppose it might lower the bar for others.

    In an ideal world it is Adelaide and Newcastle someone would stand up for, as there would at least then be a professional team in eight key locations and some sort of genuine national development comp might become self-apparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FingerTips View Post
    Is anybody else nonplussed that an equivalent to Dr Forrest has not appeared in Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney, with cheque book in hand, ready to bail out the QRU, NSWRU or MRRU?
    In every instance somebody has turned up, cheque book in hand and bailed them out.

    It was ARU's cheque book, but that still counts right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FingerTips View Post
    Is anybody else nonplussed that an equivalent to Dr Forrest has not appeared in Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney, with cheque book in hand, ready to bail out the QRU, NSWRU or MRRU?
    Well, Clive Palmer is kind of busy right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .X. View Post
    Well, Clive Palmer is kind of busy right now.
    How about Nathan Tinkler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FingerTips View Post
    Is anybody else nonplussed that an equivalent to Dr Forrest has not appeared in Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney, with cheque book in hand, ready to bail out the QRU, NSWRU or MRRU?
    Would anyone in their right mind want to get involved with RA & their track record thus far? How to fail ‘Running a Business 101 »

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