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    22 miss Super 14 start

    22 miss Super 14 start

    by: Lynn McConnell
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    Twenty-two All Blacks will miss the first seven weeks of next season's Super 14 programme and it is expected Australia and South Africa will follow suit.

    The controversial move was finalised today with the announcement that agreement had been reached with participating partners in the competition for the top-flight players to be released while 22 newcomers will be added to the affected franchises for the entire Super 14 season.

    The board of the New Zealand Rugby Union made the final decision on Friday in Whangarei after consultations with the five Super 14 franchises, SKY TV, sponsors and the Rugby Players' Association.

    Moller said the selection panel had put several options to the board for consideration, but the agreed compromise from the selectors was the system announced.

    Coach Graham Henry said the ideal situation would be to have none of the 22 involved in the Super 14 season.

    Henry was not concerned that players may go to the Rugby World Cup in France at the end of next season without a great deal of rugby.

    He said that after the Super 14 this year the selectors had received a lot of jaded players for the international programme.

    Compensation will be made to the franchises for costs incurred while coaches, who have as one of their requirements the winning of the competition, will be given an assurance of the effect of the move on their performance assessments.

    "Trying to do our best at the Rugby World Cup doesn't come cheap," NZRU chief executive Chris Moller said.

    Costs involved will be shared between the Union, franchises and the Players' Association.

    The plan is intended to have the players physically, emotionally and mentally prepared to succeed at the World Cup.

    Moller said there were some negatives with the move that could make it hard to be accepted by the public but it does provide an opportunity for 22 new players.

    Henry said it was impossible for players to improve their conditioning while they are playing and by having their first break for some years after the northern hemisphere tour, they will have three months of intensive conditioning. Some skills work will also be involved.

    The 22 players to miss the first seven games will be named at the end of the Tri Nations.

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    I could not stand it if Matt Giteau along with other key signings did not even play for the force next season! I think they should only be rested on easier matches and only if they have injuries!

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    In my opinion if they were to all be rested for the season it shows a complete disregard and lack of respect for the super 14 competition itself. Even seven weeks is a stretch! Those players who make the national 22 represent the best of the best (more often than not) of the players from the super 14 teams of that nation. To then say none of them can play is to say to each team, they may be your best players but sorry... deal with it. This would put enormous pressure on the teams and the other players who need to step up.
    I'm not suggesting a teams overall performance comes down to the individual performance of a handful of the players every time but in reality a few of the top players can turn a game around in an instant.
    If we lost players like sharpie, gits, stanners, mitchell and sheps (if they get another look in the 22) it would be a huge psychological blow as well as a loss of some class act play makers.
    And after what gits was paid... he should be playing every force match and every club match! hehe.
    So sure rest them for some of the easier games and if they have niggling injuries but don't go jeoprodising the success of the team on the basis of 'but what if they got injured?' Just can't live life by what ifs...

    ok... there's my rant done for the day.

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    Henry said it was impossible for players to improve their conditioning while they are playing and by having their first break for some years after the northern hemisphere tour, they will have three months of intensive conditioning. Some skills work will also be involved.

    Henry is a comedian.As if many of his players require intensive conditioning and skills work! The All Blacks players were not jaded as he said from returning from Super 14, going by their results hence! What it boils down to, is the intense pressure and expectation of Kiwis to win the RWC, come hell or high water.If they dont Henry will say in his defence, that he done everything in his power to have his squad up and firing( and he will be looking for a new job). I personally hope it bits him on the arse bigtime.I can only see their form going backwards from here on in.You cant be up this far out while other teams especially the Wallabies and France are only improving.
    I hope we dont rest players, unless they are injured in the Super 14 next season(maybe apart from Larkham).How do you maintain form if you are not actually playing?

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    Your on the money Jessc

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    thanks TLH.

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    why am I the only one voting no way???

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    will be a shame, and take away from any results with games involving such teams. i can see the thought process behind it, but perhaps not to that extent!

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    it's all about the stretching and interpretation of the IRB rules - until you get to a point where they step in and change em...

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    Play all games unless injured or benched. If the Kiwis really drop 22 RWC players (and we play ours) I want all my vcash on Force to win Super 14 2007.

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    Ah... I can see it now

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    Only legitimate injuries (or lack of form) should cause players to miss Super14 matches. I can't see how having players 'resting' in a competition that is over 3 months before the RWC starts is going to benefit the players or the team. Ah well, maybe the ABs are getting a bit desperate in their quest to win the RWC.

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    Super 14 rest deal for key Wallabies

    Greg Growden Chief Rugby Correspondent SMH
    Friday, August 25, 2006


    Key Wallabies will be rested for only a few Super 14 matches next season, as part of a compromise expected to be reached between the ARU and Australia's Super 14 provinces.

    As part of the deal, the timing of player absences would be decided on "a case-by-case basis".

    But New Zealand's stance to rest 22 All Blacks from the opening seven rounds of next year's Super 14 may well be scuppered by opposition from broadcasters - the New Zealand Rugby Union's stand may breach their News Limited contract.

    Wallabies management and the four Australian Super 14 provinces are still in conflict over the number of provincial matches senior Test players miss next season as they prepare for the World Cup in France,

    The Wallabies want their main Test players to be left out of the opening rounds of the Super 14, but this has brought immediate opposition from the Australian provinces, who want their main performers for most matches.

    While the Wallabies originally wanted their players out of the Super 14 until March 1, a deal is inevitable. The proposal now centres on coinciding rest periods with the Super 14 teams' byes and their easier matches.

    The Australian Rugby Union wants Wallabies available for all home matches to ensure gate takings to finance the game at provincial level.

    The ARU is not following the trans-Tasman line. There is a strong belief New Zealand will not get away with resting the All Blacks squad for most of the Super 14 because of pressure from News Limited, which through its broadcasting deal finances southern hemisphere rugby.

    News Limited may dramatically cut its broadcasting funding to New Zealand if it fails to meet the contractual obligation the three SANZAR countries have to provide a quality product. That means the three countries fielding their best teams at Super 14 and Tri Nations level. As one source said yesterday: "News Limited could argue that New Zealand have breached the SANZAR broadcasting agreement."

    The ARU's managing director, Gary Flowers, said deciding when Wallabies would miss Super 14 matches "will have to be a balancing act".

    "The strategy here is quite different to the New Zealand approach," Flowers said yesterday. "It is case by case, and does not involve pulling a whole lot of players at one particular time. But it does require the co-operation of all the Super 14 coaches with the national coach. Let's hope sanity prevails."

    Flowers said the ARU would meet with News Limited this month: "New Zealand have issued a press release saying they have discussed it with their local broadcasters - Sky NZ," he said. "The fact is that News Limited is the signatory to the broadcasting contract, and we'll be certainly talking to them shortly over the issue."

    Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie yesterday said the issue required the ARU and the four Super 14 teams making sacrifices. "The ARU mission statement says: No.1 the Wallabies have to be a world force, and No.2, we are successful at Super 14 level," he said. "As they are both goals of the ARU, we should not dismantle one for the other."

    Western Force coach John Mitchell argued that it was imperative the Wallabies were available for all of next year's Super 14, and that they be rested at other times in the season. "You don't need to use the Super 14 to obtain the 12-week reloading preparation to go into a new season," Mitchell said yesterday. "You can use the Wallabies' spring tours, or even next June, because you haven't exactly got tough Tests against Wales and Fiji. You also have four to six camps before the World Cup, while you don't play Test rugby from about mid-September … so there's a number of pockets. All these players need Super 14 rugby because it is our ultimate competition.

    "In the second year in an AFL market in Perth, we have obligations to sponsors, members and fans. We have to have our marquee players participating in our home games. It's the only thing which keeps us viable."

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    That quote of Mitchells was from Inside Rugby last night. We have certainly got the best Super 14 coach getting around and from the interview he seems to like his new home here in WA as well, anyone else see it?

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    Heard Mitch on ABC radio this mornig talking about the Derby. Sounds like he enjoys the game and been to a few of them courtesy of the Eagles and Freo.
    Pretty cluey around.

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