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    Japan and the Pacific Islands for Aussie Super 9's!

    Let's have one of these in WA! Click this link: Saitama Super Arena - New Perth Stadium?

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    So, let me get this right, sanzaar are committed to 15 teams until the end of 2020 so sunnywolves can end up at the end of 2019 if they choose

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    Quote Originally Posted by chibi View Post
    Is there any indication they are working together?

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    I wonder if SANZAR didn't take a lesson from RA though. From 2017...
    "The Sunwolves and the JRFU, in conjunction with SANZAAR, have undergone significant structural reform following a review of the Sunwolves first two seasons in Super Rugby. This has involved the consolidation of the Sunwolves operations and an alignment of high performance structures.

    The reform has seen responsibility for the Sunwolves operations move from the Japan Rugby Football Union (JRFU) to the entity known as Japan Super Rugby Association (JSRA). SANZAAR will be also taking a more proactive role within its operating structures..."

    https://sunwolves.or.jp/en/information/article/4480/

    And a year and a bit later, they are gone...

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    So essentially RA have been going around pretending that they were fully behind the Sunwolves, and the Super franchises need to help support them. All the meanwhile it would appear RA HAVE BEEN BULLSHITTING the entire time, and were quietly sabotaging the Sunwolves in the usual 2 faced manner. Now there’s a surprise....... not. Job done & the shit doesn’t stick to us approach! But once again it seems to have backfired & done more damage as they (yet again) underestimated public reaction. Anyone smell a rat-or 10?

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    Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see this backfire. We need the nuclear option if we are to ever rid the air of the smell of incompetence, collusion and corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo86 View Post
    Aussie teams: How much more money you gonna give us for turning our backs?
    They were very vocal in the fortnight leading in that they wanted the Sunwolves to stay. And it's why Castle is trying to spin a soft landing for RA. The Sunwolves were actually proving to be turning into rather good drawcards for the Aus franchise. The Tahs largest crowd last year came when the Sunwolves came to town. Seriously doubt the savings will outweigh the revenues they have started to generate.

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    Much like the savings that were supposed to ensue from the axing of the Force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Much like the savings that were supposed to ensue from the axing of the Force.
    I will have you know viewers have rised since the Force were cut. Nevermind the house of cards are falling down around it.

    ARU/RA are genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLR View Post
    I will have you know viewers have rised since the Force were cut. Nevermind the house of cards are falling down around it.

    ARU/RA are genius.
    Yes. There are many things that can and will likely do the competition but at least for now it won't be a terminal decline in the ratings.

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    Hold it, that argument is fallacious. What you said was this: the operation was a success, but the patient died.

    The ratings already ARE terminal. Attendance already IS terminal.

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    I would have given Sanzaar the middle finger too. I think Sanzaar thought they would given in, wanting to player super rugby. Seems like there is no vision at Sanzaar and its every partner for themselves.

    As far as the money is concerned, multiple sources have told Kyodo that the JRFU were being asked to provide a $5 million participation fee, pay $2 million in travel expenses and forego broadcast rights that could have brought in a further $2 million, none of which applies to the other 14 teams in the competition.

    "It was not that we were unwilling to underwrite the Sunwolves, we just couldn't agree the financial terms presented to us by SANZAAR with other demands on our budget," JRFU Chairman Noriyuki Sakamoto said.

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    Tristan Lavalette ,Australian Associated Press•23 Mar 2019, 12:31 am


    Former Wallabies coach Robbie Deans believes besieged Japanese club the Sunwolves should resurrect itself in the rebranded Global Rapid Rugby competition.

    SANZAAR confirmed on Friday that the Tokyo-based club will be culled from Super Rugby after the 2020 season.

    Even though they have languished in the standings since entering the competition in 2016, the Sunwolves have built a passionate supporter base.

    Global Rapid Rugby is continuing a push into Asia with the inclusion of teams from Singapore and Malaysia for the second season, which started on Friday night with the Western Force's 26-16 victory over the World XV at HBF Park.

    Formerly named World Series Rugby, the competition is expected to expand to at least eight teams in its first full season next year.

    Deans, the World XV coach, said it was an obvious move for the Sunwolves to join Global Rapid Rugby in 2021.

    "They have to. Japan needs something between the top league and international level...hopefully they will move," he said.

    Set to gain momentum from hosting this year's World Cup, Deans believed Japan was an important market for the sport.

    "The game is very popular there and it's growing," he said.

    "The game has taken off but obviously post-World Cup key decisions will have to be made."

    With the Sunwolves locked into playing Super Rugby next year due to the current broadcast deal, Deans said the club would have challenges ahead fielding a team.

    "You have livelihoods at stake. It's tough to get players to commit to an outfit knowing they are dead in the water," he said.

    Global Rapid Rugby is the brainchild of billionaire mining magnate Andrew Forrest after the Western Force were axed from Super Rugby in 2017.

    Force coach Tim Sampson said the Sunwolves could find inspiration from the Perth-based club.

    "They have a great following over there," he said. "You would like to think they will still be well supported wherever they end up. You can see it here with the Western Force...we had almost 12,000 tonight which is fantastic.

    :Having a quality team like that enter the competition would be fantastic."

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    I think the Sunwolves should field a team in GRR 2020. If they don't they'll lose all their players as soon as contracts come up.

    It would then be a marketing decision over which competition gets the better team (and I would personally lean towards phoning in the Super rugby side, what have they got to lose?)

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