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    Any product is only worth what the buyer will pay for it!
    We offer $1 QED!
    The way RA are spiraling into Bankruptcy I can see them accepting a Zimbabwe dollar in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo86 View Post
    So... we could buy a current Super Rugby team
    why the hell would we?

    A team in a dying competition. That nobody watches. With a broadcast deal coming soon that isn't going to be worth a pinch of poop.

    And a whole Nations teams that are about to bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSJ View Post
    And they knocked back $50mil from Twiggy to keep the Force going. "Nup, too late to save the Force, we have made a our decision, we going to shut it down and transfers all the players and coaches to the Rebels!""
    It was more like $70 million.

    I think it was ensuring the Force are completely funded by Forrest for 6 years @ $8 million/yr, or possibly 8 years @ $6 million/yr, and doesn't cost the ARU (as it was) a cent for that period, plus $20 million to pay-off other SR teams to allow Australia to retain 5 teams.

    And Forrest said he'd pay that provided Clyne stepped down as Chairman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .X. View Post
    why the hell would we?

    A team in a dying competition. That nobody watches. With a broadcast deal coming soon that isn't going to be worth a pinch of poop.

    And a whole Nations teams that are about to bail.
    others seemed to of profited... Then when RA want to buy it back we'll offer a swap Force IP for their love child

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    The Brumbies and Rugby WA have announced profits Uncle Cam we are waiting for the VRU/Rebels announcement. No hiding as you handed ownership over in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    It was more like $70 million.

    I think it was ensuring the Force are completely funded by Forrest for 6 years @ $8 million/yr, or possibly 8 years @ $6 million/yr, and doesn't cost the ARU (as it was) a cent for that period, plus $20 million to pay-off other SR teams to allow Australia to retain 5 teams.

    And Forrest said he'd pay that provided Clyne stepped down as Chairman.
    Not quite. According to what was said in the Senate inquiry Clyne said he and the board would step down if the demands were met which they were and more.
    Calling Andrew Forrest's bluff backfired and Clyne was left looking like a fool. Of course he denied the telephone call with Mr Vaux but I know who I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wholetruth View Post
    Not quite. According to what was said in the Senate inquiry Clyne said he and the board would step down if the demands were met which they were and more.
    Calling Andrew Forrest's bluff backfired and Clyne was left looking like a fool. Of course he denied the telephone call with Mr Vaux but I know who I believe.
    We are still waiting on the outcome of the investigation in to behaviour of certain witnesses at the Senate Inquiry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wholetruth View Post
    Not quite. According to what was said in the Senate inquiry Clyne said he and the board would step down if the demands were met which they were and more.
    Calling Andrew Forrest's bluff backfired and Clyne was left looking like a fool. Of course he denied the telephone call with Mr Vaux but I know who I believe.
    I thought it was John Welborns testimony before the Senate Enquiry that Andrew Forrest offered $70Million.

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    My recollection from the hearing was $50m to ARU for "grassroots" etc, an additional $20m for legal costs involved in keeping five teams plus ensuring the Force was cost free to ARU until end of current broadcast deal, so well more than $70m in real terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    My recollection from the hearing was $50m to ARU for "grassroots" etc, an additional $20m for legal costs involved in keeping five teams plus ensuring the Force was cost free to ARU until end of current broadcast deal, so well more than $70m in real terms.
    I think Forrest funding the Force was to enable the $50 million which would have gone to funding the Force to go to grassroots.

    Mind you, RA would have just spent it on 5 year contracts for 10 more over-ego'd numptys.

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    So to wrap up:
    WF enter alliance agreement, sell IP and Super License
    ARU agree to cut a team, then float idea to SNZAFU
    ARU get legal advice only WF can be cut but pretend Rebels are in frame
    WF cut in major surprise
    Legal action started, then fail coz ARU don't reveal crucial information on Rebels deals that would void contract
    Welborn testimony and Vaux email are evidence at Senate Inquiry
    Clyne offered to resign if ridiculous demands met
    Forrest doubles down and calls his bluff
    $50m plus $20m offered....grassroots, Force is funded, compensation to SNZAFU etc so RA can't get their filthy MIT's on the lucre
    Clyne and Robinson walk out on lunch in a huff
    North, Clarke, Cox accidentally see WF contract details
    Secret put option revealed for Rebels
    Clyne, Slick Willy, Clarke lie through teeth to Senate Inquiry, Cox a no show.
    Cox gets a brown paper bag of filthy lucre to save his bacon and trigger another secret put option for Rebels
    Rebels sold for $1 to VRU which has no money
    Rebels sign two entire squads including Wallabies, plus entire WF coaching staff, yet remain under celery cap
    Rebels get no cash from dubious sponsors
    Rebels sign Quade, Jones, Toomua, and others
    TWAT denies everything

    I'm sure I've missed something

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    So to wrap up:
    WF enter alliance agreement, sell IP and Super License
    ARU agree to cut a team, then float idea to SNZAFU
    ARU get legal advice only WF can be cut but pretend Rebels are in frame
    WF cut in major surprise
    Legal action started, then fail coz ARU don't reveal crucial information on Rebels deals that would void contract
    Welborn testimony and Vaux email are evidence at Senate Inquiry
    Clyne offered to resign if ridiculous demands met
    Forrest doubles down and calls his bluff
    $50m plus $20m offered....grassroots, Force is funded, compensation to SNZAFU etc so RA can't get their filthy MIT's on the lucre
    Clyne and Robinson walk out on lunch in a huff
    North, Clarke, Cox accidentally see WF contract details
    Secret put option revealed for Rebels
    Clyne, Slick Willy, Clarke lie through teeth to Senate Inquiry, Cox a no show.
    Cox gets a brown paper bag of filthy lucre to save his bacon and trigger another secret put option for Rebels
    Rebels sold for $1 to VRU which has no money
    Rebels sign two entire squads including Wallabies, plus entire WF coaching staff, yet remain under celery cap
    Rebels get no cash from dubious sponsors
    Rebels sign Quade, Jones, Toomua, and others
    TWAT denies everything

    I'm sure I've missed something
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    Excuses for such was to
    A) Stregthen Aus Rugby... and results speak for themselves
    B) Inject funds into grassroots i.e. lucrative overpaid contracts to players and more unnecessary high-performance RA staff

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    - Stall Twiggy’s comp approval till December so he has three months to get started. As a result Pichot goes postal
    - Rebels major sponsor facing a wind up order from ASIC. Another sponsor signs up and has their viability called in to question
    - ASIC turn down investigation in to the RA and Rebels deals
    - Perth Bledisloe sells out in three days
    - The RA cancel Jake White call and hire Scott Johnson as DoR commencing March with a pay out to the SRU
    - Wallabies ranking get as low as seventh. A poor RWC and not turning around results by 2021 will see them in a pool of death in 2023

    Cameron and his mates are playing bs bingo over on the Twiggy article on The Roar.

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    I dunno what you blokes are on about. There's obviously nothing to see here. Now why don't you chaps just move along? Preferably in quiet.

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