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    Here's Another Kick in Guts on the Way Out

    From this morning's Australian Newspaper - NRC news

    Western Force fears axe hovers over their NRC side

    The Australian12:00AM August 14, 2017

    WAYNE SMITH
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    The Western Force fear that it is not just their Super Rugby team the Australian Rugby Union is intent on terminating, but also their National Rugby Championship side, the Perth Spirit.

    Force chief executive Mark Sinderberry confirmed last night the Perth club would seek leave this morning to appeal to the Supreme Court against the ARU decision to strip them of their licence, with a hearing likely to be fast-tracked to ensure a decision within two weeks.

    Meanwhile, it has come to light that the ARU also intends cutting the Perth Spirit from the NRC at the end of this season. RugbyWA vice-chairman John Edwards said the club only realised their NRC team was also under threat during negotiations a few weeks ago after the ARU had issued a Termination of Alliance Agreement. (The agreement is the contract signed between the Force and the ARU when the national body bought the Super Rugby licence in June last year.)

    “In the course of renegotiation about what would happen should we lose the arbitration, the NRC Spirit team was in the Alliance as well and we asked them about that,” said Edwards. “They basically said this will be their last season, the one that’s about to start.

    “We said: ‘Why would you do that?’ And they said they were not quite sure there would be much support for (the team), or much *interest.

    “We reacted to this by reminding them what the N in NRC stands for and that this was a very important pathway — oh, and we won it last year — and that this should in no way be linked to the Force outcome.

    “What they did say, with not much credit, was that they would look at it after the season. That’s their intention.”

    An ARU spokesman said yesterday nothing official had yet been resolved about the Perth NRC side beyond the end of this season. “If they are saying that we are making plans to wrap them up beyond this year, that’s different to saying there are no plans beyond this year,” the spokesman said.

    Still, the differentiation might be lost on Force staff and supporters, who are desperately feeling the pain of Friday’s decision to cut the team. Certainly any attempt by the national body to eliminate not just the last step to the Wallabies, the Super Rugby side, but also the next-to-last step, the NRC side, will be seen as the ultimate betrayal. And it would fly in the face of the statement issued on Friday by ARU chairman Cameron Clyne.

    “Western Australia will retain an important place in Australian rugby and the ARU will continue to support youth development programs and the community game in the West,” Clyne said. “There will be a clear pathway for young Western Australian rugby players to reach the highest levels and represent the Wallabies.”

    When asked about the Perth NRC side and what role it would play, Wallabies coach Michael Cheika replied: “If that’s what will be there — I’m not sure where that organisation is — but if that’s what will be there, then that is what we will focus on, pushing the talent into there.

    “Whatever that might be, it’s about us identifying those players a little younger (than NRC age). In the shorter period, that would be done. It’s the next generation. We have to make sure our fans and volunteers and people who participate in the game are still very engaged so the next generation of players and kids, they’re still seeing rugby as something they want to be involved in.”

    There has been fallout on both sides of this civil war, with ARU chief executive Bill Pulver announcing he will resign as soon as a replacement can be found.

    Former CEO of the Waratahs, the Rugby Union Players Association and the Western Force, Greg Harris, confirmed yesterday he had an interest in applying for the position. “You’ve got to attack it front-on. It’s one thing to have the courage to make it work, but you would also need to have the support of the ARU board,” Harris said.

    Geoff Stooke, who resigned from the ARU board in protest at Friday’s decision, said yesterday Australian rugby needed to address both its finances and the high-performance areas while still keeping five Super Rugby teams.

    “I don’t ignore the fact that there will be financial difficulties but they can be worked through,” Stooke said.

    “And as for the suggestion that we’re spreading the players too thin by having five teams, that’s not been proven. We’re now providing a solution before we have identified the cause. The high-performance area needs to be looked at both from a national and from a state basis.”

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    Where and who were the legal team that were involved in the return of the license to the ARU
    Was it another lazy option from a board only worried about themselves as I have stated over the years was Sinderbury the right man to negotiate the deal with his future employer
    It seems the board have left there run to late and are now running around like rats on a sinking ship
    Let's be honest with ourselves you have more protection buying and selling something on gumtree

    Another conspiracy theory for you all
    Curtis Rona
    Richard Hardwick
    Billy Meakes
    Good players but has Rona shown enough to be in the squad
    Hardwick a fringe player at best and one for the future
    Meakes hard and straight runner and defender but at the international level ?
    ARU playing the smart game
    Divide and conquer as they get team favourites and local players to sign with other franchises
    They have been one step ahead at all times

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    "When asked about the Perth NRC side and what role it would play, Wallabies coach Michael Cheika replied: “If that’s what will be there — I’m not sure where that organisation is — but if that’s what will be there, then that is what we will focus on, pushing the talent into there."

    Why would we need to have players pushed into the Spirit from outside? We are developing players here!

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    A grain of salt with worth more than what Wayne Smith has to say... He's articles in the courier mail aren't worth a cup of cold piss...
    He's tried to dabble in Rugby League news also only for the media backlash to then 'supposably' focus on "another sport"

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    Somewhat agree in Hardwick and Rona but Meakes has been a stand out all year and is a deserved squad selection

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny View Post
    A grain of salt with worth more than what Wayne Smith has to say... He's articles in the courier mail aren't worth a cup of cold piss...
    He's tried to dabble in Rugby League news also only for the media backlash to then 'supposably' focus on "another sport"
    Seems to have been pretty accurate throughout this saga, more so than most. If anything he has stood back a bit rather than really look closely at the ARU, but still better than everyone else who have been doing their PR.

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    Is anyone surprised though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny View Post
    A grain of salt with worth more than what Wayne Smith has to say... He's articles in the courier mail aren't worth a cup of cold piss...
    It's a direct quote from RugbyWA's John Edwards:

    “In the course of renegotiation about what would happen should we lose the arbitration, the NRC Spirit team was in the Alliance as well and we asked them about that,” said Edwards. “They basically said this will be their last season, the one that’s about to start.

    So is Smith a liar? Or is Edwards a liar?

    Which is it?

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    http://www.2gb.com/podcast/hans-sauer-4/

    Hans on Alan Jones this morning.

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    Well they certainly have just wiped the floor with Rugby in WA. I am so livid about all this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ham105 View Post
    It's a direct quote from RugbyWA's John Edwards:

    “In the course of renegotiation about what would happen should we lose the arbitration, the NRC Spirit team was in the Alliance as well and we asked them about that,” said Edwards. “They basically said this will be their last season, the one that’s about to start.

    So is Smith a liar? Or is Edwards a liar?

    Which is it?
    Well hopefully it wasn't me. I was at the meeting and I can confirm the Spirit is out if the Force are out . Both teams fall under the same Alliance Agreement. Smith is actually trying to help us here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Edwards View Post
    Well hopefully it wasn't me. I was at the meeting and I can confirm the Spirit is out if the Force are out . Both teams fall under the same Alliance Agreement. Smith is actually trying to help us here.
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    Yes. Thank you, Mr John Edwards. You're saying what it is and Wayne Smith reported as such.

    Both telling it straight.

    My post was aimed at "Benny" putting shade on that report with his "grain of salt" and "cup of cold piss" comments. But he hasn't been back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny View Post
    A grain of salt with worth more than what Wayne Smith has to say... He's articles in the courier mail aren't worth a cup of cold piss...
    He's tried to dabble in Rugby League news also only for the media backlash to then 'supposably' focus on "another sport"
    Benny I dont know him at all , but he came our quite awhile ago and had a go at Pulver and the way he was running the ARU , but then again that was not long after Sevenmile posted on TWF that Pulver was a trat and not to trust him as he has other agendas. Maybe Wayne Smith had been reading Sevenmiles posts then a short time later Sevenmile got red carded for sharing Hansies private message about how Hansie thought Pulver was the man for the job and dont put him down . How times have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenmile View Post
    Benny I dont know him at all , but he came our quite awhile ago and had a go at Pulver and the way he was running the ARU , but then again that was not long after Sevenmile posted on TWF that Pulver was a trat and not to trust him as he has other agendas. Maybe Wayne Smith had been reading Sevenmiles posts then a short time later Sevenmile got red carded for sharing Hansies private message about how Hansie thought Pulver was the man for the job and dont put him down . How times have changed.
    any particular reason why sevenmile refers to sevenmile like sevenmile is someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exile View Post
    any particular reason why sevenmile refers to sevenmile like sevenmile is someone else?
    Because sevenmile is as sevenmile does.

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