2018 Player Contracts

[Bakkies]

Waratahs have said they have received my request for a call back. Don't want a call back as I much prefer it in writing.

[UAUdiver1959]

Good (by good I mean better than nothing) article in the Australian by Wayne Smith today......this will get the blood boiling. Plenty of comments, mine several of them....keep knifing the MRRU and the player allocation and the ARU financial crisis no one knows about.

[sittingbison]

Yes, but still not a single peep from any rugby journo about the senate enquiry

[Bakkies]

The Tarts have woken up

Waratahs boss slams waiving of salary cap
By AAP, 23 Nov 2017


Rugby Australia’s decision to waive the Super Rugby salary cap to allow teams to absorb Western Force players is “economic madness”, NSW Waratahs chairman Roger Davis says.

Rugby Australia promised to honour the contracts of the Force players after the Perth-based franchise was axed from Super Rugby for financial reasons.

While the limits on the $5 million salary cap and 30 squad numbers have been temporarily lifted during a “transition” stage, Rugby Australia has not increased the $5 million grants to the Super Rugby teams.

“The salary cap was grounded in economic reality and that was basically what you could afford to pay and still be profitable,” Davis said.

“It was a common sense cap. You get (Rugby Australia) top-ups over and above that, I understand that, but it was a common sense cap and it provided disciplines for the Super Rugby clubs to operate in so they could have a better chance of becoming profitable.

“Well, you’ve just thrown that out the door. The imperative for financial discipline is now removed.

“This is just economic madness. It will be a sugar hit and a couple of years down the line you are going to find reality will set in.”

The Super Rugby clubs had expected the Force players and funding to be redistributed equitably among the four remaining teams.

However, the bulk of the players have followed coach Dave Wessels to the Melbourne Rebels, including star second-rower Adam Coleman, while the Force’s $5 million grant has been allocated to community rugby next year.

On top of this, the Rebels have signed Wallabies halfback Will Genia to a lucrative contract, which means last season’s captain Nic Stirzaker will be a bench player.

Ironically, the Rebels got into serious financial trouble when Rugby Australia allowed the 2011 expansion franchise to recruit up to 10 foreign players, who were not included in the salary cap, blowing their budget from the outset.

“The idea was to have four strong sides. That is why the talented was supposed to be reallocated,” Davis said.

“Most of the players have gone to Melbourne, which is really disappointing. I understand why the Force players have gone. They have stuck with their coach.

“None of us expected we would get money in 2018 but in 2019 you do the maths.

“Five million between four sides is $1.25 million per state. Hopefully, in 2019 we’ll see the release of this.”

[Perth Girl]

Phil Kearns as Rat’s Arse CEO? God help us!!!

Agree Alison!

[joblot]

Phil Kearns as Rat’s Arse CEO? God help us!!!

I suspect that whoever gets the job will be told that all the Rebels financial Shenanigans are to be treated as strictly confidential. If anyone accepts the job with that condition, they will not be employing an honest individual.

[GIGS20]

they will not be employing an honest individual.

That isn't even on the Job Description

[shasta]

Castle has good experience of treating people like crap. Particularly Des Hasler who is looking to sue the Bulldogs .

That decision was made by chairman Ray Dib and the board, as are most at the Dogs. Raelene Castle had already given her resignation date prior to the sacking of Hasler. Got any other examples of the other people she has treated like crap?

[shasta]

We will see if Georgina Robinson is right as she said the next CEO is not from Mosman where Phil lives.

If you are referring to what she said on Offsiders, it was "Hopefully not a Rat's Arse director's next door neighbour". Referring to Pulver and Eales. That's a little bit different to " not from Mosman".

[FingerTips]

The Super Rugby clubs had expected the Force players and funding to be redistributed equitably among the four remaining teams.

FCOL, are the ACT, NSW and QLD unions only now waking up to that fact that it never was the ARU's intention to distribute the former Force players and funding equitably among the four remaining teams?

It has always been about bolstering the Rebels in order to get attendance numbers and sponsorship dollars up, and reduce the amount of cash flowing out.

The ARU has taken one almighty bet that with the boost in player resources courtesy of the defunct Force, the performance of the Rebels will be turned around in 2018 and the fans (and sponsors) will flock back.

[Leo86]

The Tarts have woken up

Waratahs boss slams waiving of salary cap
By AAP, 23 Nov 2017


Rugby Australia’s decision to waive the Super Rugby salary cap to allow teams to absorb Western Force players is “economic madness”, NSW Waratahs chairman Roger Davis says.

Rugby Australia promised to honour the contracts of the Force players after the Perth-based franchise was axed from Super Rugby for financial reasons.

While the limits on the $5 million salary cap and 30 squad numbers have been temporarily lifted during a “transition” stage, Rugby Australia has not increased the $5 million grants to the Super Rugby teams.

“The salary cap was grounded in economic reality and that was basically what you could afford to pay and still be profitable,” Davis said.

“It was a common sense cap. You get (Rugby Australia) top-ups over and above that, I understand that, but it was a common sense cap and it provided disciplines for the Super Rugby clubs to operate in so they could have a better chance of becoming profitable.

“Well, you’ve just thrown that out the door. The imperative for financial discipline is now removed.

“This is just economic madness. It will be a sugar hit and a couple of years down the line you are going to find reality will set in.”

The Super Rugby clubs had expected the Force players and funding to be redistributed equitably among the four remaining teams.

However, the bulk of the players have followed coach Dave Wessels to the Melbourne Rebels, including star second-rower Adam Coleman, while the Force’s $5 million grant has been allocated to community rugby next year.

On top of this, the Rebels have signed Wallabies halfback Will Genia to a lucrative contract, which means last season’s captain Nic Stirzaker will be a bench player.

Ironically, the Rebels got into serious financial trouble when Rugby Australia allowed the 2011 expansion franchise to recruit up to 10 foreign players, who were not included in the salary cap, blowing their budget from the outset.

“The idea was to have four strong sides. That is why the talented was supposed to be reallocated,” Davis said.

“Most of the players have gone to Melbourne, which is really disappointing. I understand why the Force players have gone. They have stuck with their coach.

“None of us expected we would get money in 2018 but in 2019 you do the maths.

“Five million between four sides is $1.25 million per state. Hopefully, in 2019 we’ll see the release of this.”

HAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHA Suck shit Davis, you parasitic prick who wanted to benefit at the demolition of another club regardless of the long term impact. HAHAHAHAHA

[GIGS20]

The ARU has taken one almighty bet that with the boost in player resources courtesy of the defunct Force, the performance of the Rebels will be turned around in 2018 and the fans (and sponsors) will flock back.

There are some massive IFs in there aren't there?

IF the Force players don't crack the shits and go overseas
IF they can capture the same spirit and teamwork under a different administration
IF they can gel with the few existing Rebels players
IF they don't get big heads

and after all that

IF the Melbourn public will actually go out and watch a Rebels game even IF they win the title.

The last one is the biggest IMHO. Perth crowds have proven time and agai they will come out in numbers to watch a team win, it doesn't correlate as directly in Melbourne.

[SinBin]

HAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHA Suck shit Davis, you parasitic prick who wanted to benefit at the demolition of another club regardless of the long term impact. HAHAHAHAHA

Karma

[valzc]

At this rate I can't see how ANY of the teams will still be in existence by the end of the season! The whole sorry bunch are a basket case, and like cannibals they'll now start to turn on each other!

[Jules]

The Tarts have woken up

Waratahs boss slams waiving of salary cap
By AAP, 23 Nov 2017


Rugby Australia’s decision to waive the Super Rugby salary cap to allow teams to absorb Western Force players is “economic madness”, NSW Waratahs chairman Roger Davis says.

Rugby Australia promised to honour the contracts of the Force players after the Perth-based franchise was axed from Super Rugby for financial reasons.

While the limits on the $5 million salary cap and 30 squad numbers have been temporarily lifted during a “transition” stage, Rugby Australia has not increased the $5 million grants to the Super Rugby teams.

“The salary cap was grounded in economic reality and that was basically what you could afford to pay and still be profitable,” Davis said.

“It was a common sense cap. You get (Rugby Australia) top-ups over and above that, I understand that, but it was a common sense cap and it provided disciplines for the Super Rugby clubs to operate in so they could have a better chance of becoming profitable.

“Well, you’ve just thrown that out the door. The imperative for financial discipline is now removed.

“This is just economic madness. It will be a sugar hit and a couple of years down the line you are going to find reality will set in.”

The Super Rugby clubs had expected the Force players and funding to be redistributed equitably among the four remaining teams.

However, the bulk of the players have followed coach Dave Wessels to the Melbourne Rebels, including star second-rower Adam Coleman, while the Force’s $5 million grant has been allocated to community rugby next year.

On top of this, the Rebels have signed Wallabies halfback Will Genia to a lucrative contract, which means last season’s captain Nic Stirzaker will be a bench player.

Ironically, the Rebels got into serious financial trouble when Rugby Australia allowed the 2011 expansion franchise to recruit up to 10 foreign players, who were not included in the salary cap, blowing their budget from the outset.

“The idea was to have four strong sides. That is why the talented was supposed to be reallocated,” Davis said.

“Most of the players have gone to Melbourne, which is really disappointing. I understand why the Force players have gone. They have stuck with their coach.

“None of us expected we would get money in 2018 but in 2019 you do the maths.

“Five million between four sides is $1.25 million per state. Hopefully, in 2019 we’ll see the release of this.”

Karma is great and as for the last line!! Dreaming mate there will be no extra cash in 2019 at this rate!! Could had 50 million but NO this is soo much better!!