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    Quote Originally Posted by maelkann View Post
    for what? Maliciously attacking Sam Burgess's elbow with his neck?

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    Uh Oh. Tsk Tsk England!

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sp...time-approach/

    "England face World Cup investigation over half-time approach

    London (AFP) - World Rugby said Monday it is investigating reports that England coaching staff made an illegal approach to match officials at half time in their devastating loss by Australia.

    According to media reports two England coaches made the approach as the two teams left the field at Twickenham on Saturday with England trailing 17-3. Head coach Stuart Lancaster was not among them however."

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    I was discussing how awesome this game was with Rob the Pom at my work. I observed that England played much like the , in that they seemed to have no Plan B when Plan A went to shite.

    Rob the Pom observed that England had been playing like that for quite some time.

    Maybe that means we could get Lancaster to coach once Foley moves on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueandblack View Post
    Uh Oh. Tsk Tsk England!
    Oh yeah. It's not like our coach would ever do something like that.

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    Stepping Up at the Breakdown

    Much has been written about the Wallaby victory over England.

    If this game sets the tone of the RWC then buckle your seatbelts as were in for some ride over the next 4 weeks.

    The stats show that England was ahead in some areas:
    • They had a better running game – 391 m compared to our 254m. More Clean Breaks, Defenders Beaten and Offloads;
    • They missed fewer tackles – 101/15 versus 116/18; and
    • Slightly better Lineout – 7/1 (87%) versus 11/2 (85%).

    But the Wallabies:
    • Made more of their Possession (51%) and Territory (53%);
    • Won more rucks 81 from 84 (96%) versus 77 from 84 (92%);
    • Conceded fewer Turnovers – 10 versus 17.
    • Conceded fewer penalties – 5 versus 9 - nil Yellow Cards; and
    • Turned a scrum, over which there was a question mark on the big stage into one of dominance – even after bench replacements.

    Both sides showed good line speed but the Wallabies maintained this pressure throughout the entire game.

    The Wallaby effort at the breakdown was maintained over the full 80 minutes, with a significant lift in involvement from the Front Row. Whereas the Front Row had been contributing 25-28% of Total Ruck involvements, against England this was lifted to 35%. In addition, the Front Row lifted their tackle count with big contributions from Moore (11/0) and Sio (9/0).

    England were scrambling in defence but particularly at the breakdown where their Backs had to contribute 40% of their team’s Defensive Ruck involvements and 28% of Total Ruck involvements. By comparison, the Wallaby Backs could rely on their Forwards to do the hard work making only 16% of Def. Rucks and 22% of Total Ruck involvements.

    Ruck Involvements

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    1. England Forwards had 85% of the Total Ruck involvements but only 51% of the Defensive Ruck involvements of the Wallaby Forwards.
    2. England was generally standing off on Defensive Rucks – which made up only 18% of their Total Ruck involvements.
    3. Robshaw, Wood, Cole and Vunipola were most involved in putting pressure on the Australian ball.
    4. Both sets of Locks were strongly supporting their own ball carriers.
    5. Significant ruck contributions from strongly defensive Centre pairings. Giteau and Barritt very evenly matched. Joseph made 11 rucks.
    6. The Australian Forwards maintained about the same level of involvement in defensive Rucks as they had shown against Fiji (32%).
    7. Pocock, Hooper, Fardy and Moore were most involved in putting pressure on the England ball.
    8. Pocock’s clear priority was to put pressure on the England ball carriers and gained 3 Turnovers from his 20 Defensive Rucks.
    9. Pocock’s Total Ruck involvement was 15% below what he averaged in TRC tests and nearly 30% below his game against Fiji.
    10. Hooper’s priority was clearly to work with Douglas, Simmons, Kepu and Sio in supporting the Australian ball carriers. Hooper earned 1 Turnover from his 9 Defensive Rucks.
    11. Hooper’s Total Ruck involvement (34) was 25% better than he averaged in TRC tests and a 70% improvement over his game against Fiji.
    12. Fardy’s Ruck involvement is consistently at or above this level.
    13. Moore’s Ruck Involvement returned to his average in TRC tests and a 50% improvement over his game against Fiji.
    14. All Bench Forwards showed strong Ruck Involvement which helped stifle England’s efforts in the last 20 minutes.

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    1. The 10-minute breakdowns help show individual and group contributions at various stages of the match.
    2. The England Forwards lifted their Ruck Involvements by nearly 20% in the 2nd half.
    3. The Australian Forwards put in big efforts for the 1st 20 minutes, immediately after half-time and in the 60-70 min period after England had worked their way back on the scoreboard. Holmes and Slipper provided great support off the bench.
    4. England bench players did not provide the same lift in Ruck involvements.
    5. Commendable efforts by Robshaw, Wood, Parling and Launch bury during England’s fight back.
    6. Turnovers were earned by Wood (2), Launchbury (1) and Morgan (1).

    Front Row Contribution

    For some time now I have been highlighting that the Wallaby Front row has been contributing much less Ruck Involvement (generally 25-28% of Total ruck involvements) than that in other top-tier teams (generally 35-40% of Total ruck involvements).

    In this Test, the England Front Row maintained their involvement at 34% of the reduced Total ruck involvement by the England Forwards.

    The Australian Front Row lifted their contribution to 34% of Total ruck involvements by the Forwards in an increased number of Total ruck involvements by the Australian Forwards (242). By comparison, against Fiji the Front Row contributed only 27% of the Total Ruck involvements by the Australian Forwards (185).

    In my view, this level of Front Row Ruck involvement is required for the Wallabies to compete with other top tier nations at the RWC.

    Involvement in Defensive Rucks.

    Over the past 12 months there has been a significant variation in the amount of involvement that the Australian Forwards have in Defensive Rucks (shown as a % of Total Rucks).

    The data below shows that under McKenzie, the involvement was as high as 50% (against Bokkes and Pumas in 2014) but now varies according to the game plan and opposition.

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    There is clearly no direct correlation with this % and the final result.

    However, in our 3 games in the RWC to date the Wallabies have shown that they can put consistent pressure on the stronger team’s ball at the breakdown, and earn turnovers without being penalised off the park as has happened in the past.

    Of particular note is the very low 7% Defensive Ruck involvement against England last year.

    It is worth noting the effort of David Pocock who in 2 games has earned 8 Turn Overs Won from 40 Defensive Ruck involvements while averaging only 1 Penalty/game. An impressive 1TOW/5DRI.
    NOW try and convince me that he's NOT the best No 7 in the Wallaby squad..

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    England have named their squad for the knock out stages of the World Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    England have named their squad for the knock out stages of the World Cup.
    I thought that it was more of practice for their Quarter Final involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exile View Post
    Wait - Jono's mum is Alison?? wow - I didnt pick that at all
    Jebus!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg View Post
    Who cares about bonus points now?

    Great work by the Forward Pack (including off the bench) to turn Poites prejudice about our scrum into scrum dominance against England.

    6 from 6 for Foley (plus 2 tries) :-)

    Just loved the benching of Marler after Poite's warning!

    Also enjoyed the English walkout before the end of the game.

    ps Do you think Alison would have enjoyed this?????
    I loved it!! A pub full of very unhappy Englishmen! Priceless!!

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    I very much enjoyed the win - wife and inlaws were less impressed.

    Also reminded the residents and tourists in the Lake District on Sunday what happened to their chariot

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