New Perth Stadium design revealed

[shasta]

In the end as GIGS said and he is on the mark we dont dream just keep NIB as our base

Yep all the people who said that NIB would quickly become inadequate have been proven off the mark. I don't see that happening unless a Crusaders-like dynasty is in the pipeline. So it's good fit for us but probably not so good in the corporate area.

[jono]

It 's just a square peg into a round hole............. Won't go.

Please the liberals just keep hammering at it until it's doesn't go any further in, or come out again

[Naggs]

The pitch is actually sunken by a couple of metres below the height of the seats meaning when the drop in seats for rugby go in there will actually be a gradient on those as well.

Also there won't be a huge bulge in the middle of the pitch like spewbi has. Its gonna be flat.

Don't think it will be all doom and gloom.

[GIGS20]

Don't think it will be all doom and gloom.

Sorry mate, been on this soapbox waaaaaaay too long to think that.

Drop in seats will remain "dropped out" the AFL can't play on surfaces which aren't bowling green smooth, they complained when the ines on the pitch at subiaco interfered with their few of the game in the last season (remember that season where the lines appeared to be transparent?) they will resist at every turn......being the majority tenant of the stadium, they will win that argument.

Don't kid yourself, this is an AFL stadium which is seeking funding from the other sports, the WACA aren't interested in playing cricket there, but have been pressured into allowing 20/20 the FFA aren't interested in having soccer there, but have begrudgingly allowed internationals (60000 seats) and the ARU are saying it must be better than Scumbiaco, which it will, but it'll never ever ever be a rectangle and it'll always have seats which are terraced too flat for the game to be enjoyed.

[chibi]

I was thinking, they could make the tiers closer and steeper than the standard design.

[jargan83]

It is mighty big of soccer to offer the WA Government the opportunity to open its new Burswood stadium in 2018 with a blockbuster “Ashes” match between the Socceroos and England. However, it is an offer that comes with a few big assumptions.

The first assumption is that the State Government will, in three years time, have forgiven Australian soccer officials for leaving Perth off its map of Australia when it drew up the Asian Cup program. You would hope they haven’t forgiven them yet. There were seven games in Canberra during the recent tournament and four, including a semifinal, in Newcastle. Zero in WA — a State that had recently spent $90 million on a rectangular stadium upgrade to benefit soccer and rugby.

That is about as big a kick in the guts as you can give any mainland Australian capital city.

The second assumption is that the Government will have forgiven soccer for the dearth of international matches here generally in the past 10 years.

If you were the Government, and soccer put its “Ashes” soccer match proposal to you, you might want to put your hard-nosed business cap on and say something like: “No worries, we will consider your proposal when you give us a written and binding commitment to play two genuine internationals a year at our new stadium for the next 10 years. One of those would be the one you should play here annually anyway. The other of those is to make up for you snubbing our city in the past decade in the scheduling of soccer internationals.”

The third and biggest assumption is as much about timing as anything else: If the Burswood stadium is ready to go in December 2017, why wouldn’t the Government take the opportunity to ask the Perth Scorchers to strike the first blows in anger there in the Big Bash League. And if the stadium is ready in March 2018, why would the Government snub the AFL, which will play at least 22 games a year at the stadium when soccer has no recent exposed form in playing even one international here?

And the final assumption is that the stadium launch should centre on a sporting event at all. If the completion of the stadium falls somewhere in between December 2017 and March 2018 and a big international music act like U2 were in Australia, why wouldn’t we be asking them to open the stadium in front of 60,000 people in the stands and another 15,000 on the arena itself, proving that an $800 million taxpayer investment has worth that stretches well beyond sporting boundaries?

Forget Jerry Maguire’s famous catch cry: “Show me the money.” When it comes to the Burswood stadium, the demand our Government should be making of every sport that has its sights set on being the star act is: “Show us the content.”
And to that end, AFL football is a clear leader, assuming a deal can be struck for it to be the new stadium’s major tenant. Cricket is the big fish that the Government needs to hook.

And soccer? Well, right now they are just the blokes who forgot we existed when the biggest tournament Australia has ever staged in their sport was played everywhere but here.

Let’s not kid ourselves. There will be plenty of sports making cases and beating chests when it comes to the new stadium. And none of these sports have a particularly compelling moral case to back their argument.


If the stadium is ready in March 2018, why would the Government snub the AFL, which will play at least 22 games a year at the stadium?

Football was gifted Subiaco Oval after the sport’s financial mismanagement left it broke, helped by government to redevelop it and yet still managed to run it down.

The Socceroos would struggle to find their way to WA without a tour guide and we have had to pay the Wallabies to come here to play rugby against South Africa and Argentina.

Cricket, like those shell-shocked Australian batsmen of the 1980s facing the West Indian pace attack, can’t decide whether to hook over to Burswood or duck the issue and stay at the dilapidated WACA Ground.

But if we want to get this stadium from the 22 AFL matches a year that will be played there, to the 40 events a year it needs to wipe its own nose financially, cricket is the key player in the equation. When BBL, Tests, one day internationals and T20 internationals are added up, cricket has the potential to bring as many as 10 events a year to Burswood. With crowds for the Adelaide Strikers matches at the new Adelaide Oval climbing past 50,000 this summer, the potential for the sport is obvious.

If cricket needs more convincing and the stadium is finished in time, five BBL matches might do the trick: More than 50,000 people cramming the grandstands and so much money being made they need a barge to cart it over the river to the WACA Ground. And that might make a cricket match to open the stadium a smart choice, even if it puts the noses of other codes out of joint.

Australia’s major sports are very clever chameleons. They parade around as community-minded keepers of their codes but when it comes down to it they switch hats quickly and become keepers of the money. That applies to all of them.

The hat that our Government needs to wear on this one is the one that takes care of taxpayers who will make an investment of well over a billion dollars in and around this stadium and deserve the best bang for their buck in the short, medium and long-term.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/26253866/

[palitu]

obviously im going to ask the question related to this forum - do the Warrabies lose money playing in Perth?

[shasta]

Isn't the reason Perth missed out on Asian Cup matches that NIB does not meet FIFA criteria? Or did the upgrade changed that?

[jargan83]

Eventscorp the board that bids for events like this didn't bid for any of the Asain Cup games.

[Kev]

Just check out the profile of the Minister heading up VenuesWest & then the Board .... no sporting apparent connections around, but previous administrator of the State Library must be a pre-requisite for the positions.

Oh yeah Mike Hussey is on the board as well ... as well as being a full time coach already !

[GIGS20]

Who wrote that AFL-centric populist pap?

Essentially it's saying let's fill the stadium with as many West Australians as we can at every opportunity rather than showcasing it to a nationwide and international audience which might be attracted by what they see and bring money into the state.

Last I checked, Colin Barnett liked money, he can use it to build another public works phallic symbol which nobody wants, needs or will use.

The AFL is small potatoes in relation to the tourism dollars that can be earned by filling the stadium with international content.

[chibi]

Eventscorp the board that bids for events like this didn't bid for any of the Asain Cup games.

Dead right, I sent a letter to the FFA asking about that, they said that they offered Perth games conducive to the both the large venue (Subiaco) and the smaller venue (nib Stadium) but we declined to bid for either.

Thinking of how it was Perth who were the catalyst for the A-League's creation we screwed ourselves out of Olympic Soccer in 2000 also.

Anybody find it ridiculous how the footy chucked a sook about how the Socceroos vs England might be the opening fixture at the new stadium? The footy-folk want it to be Weagles vs Dackers.

[jargan83]

Who wrote that AFL-centric populist pap?

Mark Duffield, chief AFL correspondent and sports editor for the West Australian.

Anybody find it ridiculous how the footy chucked a sook about how the Socceroos vs England might be the opening fixture at the new stadium? The footy-folk want it to be Weagles vs Dackers.

I certainly do. I went and had a look at one of he fumbleball forums I know of and the term full reatard doesn't even begin to cover some of the opinions I read.

[shasta]

The AFL is small potatoes in relation to the tourism dollars that can be earned by filling the stadium with international content.

As you know only too well, there have been so many AFL oriented jobs for the boys in sports administration, from both sides of politics in WA, that the world view is always obscured by AFL blinkers. However, the (world game) Football cat is well and truly out of the bag. They might not like it. But they can't afford to ignore it any longer, either. They must have been choking after seeing some of the attendance figures in January. I'll sure be at NIB for the Socceroos - if I can get a ticket.

[GIGS20]

I thought the Socceroos game was going to be the opening of the new stadium.

However if the Socceroos play a worthwhile international over here, I would be interested as well.