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Thread: SUPER RUGBY – WEEK 3: WESTERN FORCE V BRUMBIES

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Comments by Scott Allen's article Roar - the game plan is not working either because of coaching team, perhaps it's not suiting the players style or the players aren't following the game plan & not gelling as a team in
    A good game plan does not win you games, you still need the players to execute the game plan. If you had 4 of the best coaches in the world collectively coaching, say, Japan for a year solid and then played them against a combined team from the 4 NZ franchises, thrown together at the last minute with zero coaching, Japan will still lose 10 times out of 10.

    Break it down to a basic level - you essentially need to get the defence on the backfoot, put continual pressure on them, get them backpedaling until they are in disarray, then invariably there will be holes and quick ball to the backs will produce tries. But in order to do that, you need forwards that have the pace, power and strength to punch holes in the defence and make the gain line plus the ball skills to hold onto the ball. We don't have those forwards that can do that. Time and again our forward runners are either tackled on the gain line or knocked back behind the gain line, phase after phase. If the ball isn't knocked on, it's then slow ball, shipped to the backs who are expected to do something against a well organised and structured defence that has not been under pressure. There is no magical game plan that is going to work whilst this very basic and fundamental flaw exists.



    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Interesting it was mentioned that Tahs don't necessarily have great players

    Sorry completely disagree there - Israel Folus, Michael hooper, Kurtley Beale, Wycliff Palu, Alofa etc etc Those first 2 are arguably the best in the world in their respective positions.

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    Sorry completely disagree there - Israel Folus, Kurtley Beale, Michael hooper, Wycliff Palu, Alofa etc etc Those first 3 are arguably the best in the world in their respective positions.[/QUOTE]

    Really KB arguably the best inside centre in the world. Puff, puff give my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddly View Post
    Really KB arguably the best inside centre in the world. Puff, puff give my friend.
    Yeah I knew that would raise a few eyebrows. He's capable of having a shocker, has personal issues etc etc When he's firing on all cylinders though, he's very, very good. Probably pushing it a bit with best in the world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zed View Post
    There is no magical game plan that is going to work whilst this very basic and fundamental flaw exists.
    Agree up to a point, but that would then beg the question how it was possible we beat half the finalists last year...?

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    Agreed Zed - hey don't shoot the messenger! The point I'm trying to make is the fact that the Force do have good players and if that's not achieving results after some time then IMHO there's gotta be something not clicking somewhere. And it seems to come back to coaching and self confidence and from last week I felt that they weren't comfortable playing whatever the hell that style was and it just ain't working, so coach them to their strengths not necessarily a forced gameplay which only seems to be plugging up the holes from the Tahs game.
    Jus sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Agreed Zed - hey don't shoot the messenger! .
    Ha ha sorry!

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    So apparently we have the same ref as last week - OH NO! Did anyone else with Sportsears listen to the refs reporting being very matey with the Brumbies the whole game. Just heard one time when he casually mentioned to Mattie in second half "Aw you 're starting to get some ball now". ......... WTF!?? Really - does Matt need to get more strongly diplomatic with these knobs or what? (Remember Sharpie could always give the ref a good spray when they needed it LOL!)

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    Matt defo needs to be more snarly with the refs!!

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