Nedlands will establish a training base in Northern Suburbs

[phantom]

Letter from Nedlands to RugbyWA below

16 December 2013
Nedlands will establish a training base for junior players at James Cook Reserve in Hillarys for the 2014 season.
James Cook Reserve is located off Banks Ave within the City of Joondalup.
Nedlands will use James Cook Reserve as a training base for junior players only during the rugby season and will initially cater for players in the 5-12 year old age bracket. The club has no intention of expanding the junior training base to include Colts or senior players.
There are no facilities at James Cook Reserve other than a public toilet block. Neddies has no plans to build or establish any other facilities on the reserve.
The move comes 27 years after the Neddies junior club was established from a training base in the northern suburbs (City Beach) in 1986, before later moving to the current training base at The Foreshore.
The move to establish a second junior training ground at James Cook Reserve has primarily been driven by approaches from current and former Nedlands players living in the northern suburbs who cannot make it to The Foreshore to take their sons and daughters to junior trainings.
Nedlands has struggled for player numbers for many of the club’s junior teams in recent years due primarily to the fact that there are four clubs (Cottesloe, Associates, University and Nedlands) competing for players in the same small area of Perth’s western suburbs.
Significantly, three of those clubs are all based within the City of Nedlands, which has population of just ~20,000.
In contrast, there is only one club in the City of Wanneroo (population ~172,000) and two clubs in the City of Joondalup (population ~165,000).
Nedlands juniors training at James Cook Reserve will join the club’s juniors who train at The Foreshore in their Saturday morning games.
Nedlands also hopes the junior training base at James Cook Reserve will also encourage more kids to take up the game of rugby.

very agressive letter with statements like

Nedlands will establish... and Nedlands will use....

who the hell do they think they are

and where is RugbyWA in all of this, Oh I found them with a ring arounf their necks.

[westies man]

With the population figures you provided it makes it a bloody good idea.Good work and good luck,hope it works out.

[jargan83]

This is old news is it not?

[jono]

I thought so.
Guess some people just need a reason up whinge.
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[Dr C]

So much for Padlands. Say hello to Nedarys. Will junior registration be run from the toilet block?

[Hansie]

Great to see a positive iniative to cater for the members living up north. Everybody knows our traffic congestion has just multiplied driving minutes to and from the Foreshore.

The good thing to point out on this forum is that my understanding is that the Neddies members making this happen, spoke to both Wanneroo and Joondalup clubs many months ago.

[Ecky]

very agressive letter....

Aggressive?

Very agressive?

Seems more like a mission statement or similar to me.

Positive; not aggressive.

[GIGS20]

Aggressive?

Very agressive?

Seems more like a mission statement or similar to me.

Positive; not aggressive.

Yeah I didn't hear aggression either,

It sounds like the club is splitting junior training over two fields for existing members. That could all be legal-speak to cover for the fact that they want to pinch kids from the area, however if the populate density figures quoted in the letter are correct, there doesn't sound like too much to complain about.

Are Wanneroo and Joondalup struggling for junior numbers? If so, that would be an issue.

[G_Beard]

At which venue will these juniors being playing there games?
Hopefully Leederville, as several of the junior clubs based there, play their own clubs fairly regularly throughout the season.
A couple extra teams would be magic.
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[phantom]

Aggressive?

Very agressive?

Seems more like a mission statement or similar to me.

Positive; not aggressive.

Most clubs will discuss issues with RugbyWA and will ask permission from the governing body of rugby in WA if they can make changes or do something outside of the ordinary, on the other hand Nedlands just say "will" and does what they want.That is the problem and it is not the way to do things ....

[phantom]

The good thing to point out on this forum is that my understanding is that the Neddies members making this happen, spoke to both Wanneroo and Joondalup clubs many months ago.

Hansie yes good to point out that Nedlands have spoken to Wanneroo however you don't mention that Wanneroo also told those Nedlands members where they can go with that idea.......

I can assure you that Wanneroo is completely against this and has clearly been against it from the beginning. Neither the seniors or the juniors want you in our feeder area. Wanneroo has made this clear to RugbyWA and the WAJRU as well.

I believe Joondalup feel very much the same

It is time RugbyWA and the WAJRU for that matter starts listening to the majority of their members
Joondalup and Wanneroo together makes up close to 25% of total Junior numbers but judging from what is currently happening they only have 1% of the say.

....go amalgamate with one of the other dying inner city clubs of Perth .... because Nedlands, Uni, Cottesloe, and Associates will not be around in the current format in 5 to 10 years from now!
If it wasn't for Nedland's money and influence at RugbyWA you would have been gone long ago already.

The writing is on the wall and you guys know it it is only a matter of time.....

[brokendown gunfighter]

ah,the tall poppy syndrome

[Hansie]

Phantom

Why the paranoia?

Since when is a location in the city of Joondalup part of Wanneroo's turf?

Are you saying the entire Northern Suburbs are the jurisdiction of Joondalup and Wanneroo?

Since when do Joondalup and Wanneroo constitute the majority of RugbyWA members?

Why would any junior want to leave Wanneroo with it's facilities to go and train at a ground with a toilet block?

If Wanneroo provides their juniors with super coaches, facilities and a pathway, why would any junior leave Wanneroo?

Why should Neddies stalwarts and their kids be forced to play for Wanneroo or Joondalup just because they live in the Northern Suburbs.

What are you scared of???

Since you have whinged and moaned and bleated without any substance, explain to this forum your solution, how it would work, how it caters for the good of rugby in WA, just as you owe your roodog members support and allegiance, respect the fact other clubs can do likewise, so how does Neddies support it's Northern membership?

[westies man]

And that Phantom is why the game will never grow here.Too many people worried about their own little patch and can't or won't look at the big picture.

[TOCC]

I actually think this is quite a positive step, any new establishment of grassroots clubs or training grounds should be deemed a positive thing.

Just because one clubs sees the establishment of a new club or training ground as a threat to their own player catchment area doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. This has happened for years in Brisbane, many of the larger clubs have junior feeder teams established in what could be interpreted as another teams catchment area.

I had a look, the proposed ground is 10km away from Waneroo, thats still a massive distance, I'm not sure why they are even whinging.