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    He didn't say that!

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    The reason the under 18 comp is in this mess and continuing to trend downwards is that Uni was allowed to rape and pillage the age group last year. .
    The last two years from what I understand. And some at a price.
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    RWA stated, to spread players throughout clubs at 18s level NO club will be permitted to have TWO 18s team this year as part of their initiative to solve player attrition rates at this level.
    Roo-dogs will be unbeatable in 18s for 2013 - again they must have a very good structure in place


    I think RWA said that unless good reason could be found then a club would not be allowed two teams. If a club like Wanneroo has obviously been putting in so much effort to their young players moving into 18s and 20s AND their retention rate is high why should they be penalised.
    If they can't put in two teams where will the left-out players, who have probably spent their Junior years at the Roo Dogs, go. Why should they have to leave their club. They would probably disappear to another sport probably.
    Wanneroo are seeing the results of several years hard work at Junior level.
    And, if these players are moving into Senior Grades, which looks like happening with many of their U20's this season well then at least we are seeing local club success.
    Not to mention the appointment of Gibbo to the U20's. That is a master stroke

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    Re our 18's it will be touch and go but to have 4 different coaching set up's for the past 4 seasons must tell you how frustrated you get with this age group.When you get 17 yr old nobodies shopping themselves around asking for a bit of petrol money you can understand why clubs are losing interest in trying to get teams up and running in this age group.It's nobodies fault, It's just the generation that we created

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    Quote Originally Posted by wholetruth View Post
    Wanneroo are seeing the results of several years hard work at junior level.
    Wanneroo have put in great time and effort into their Juniors ranks and are to be applauded – BUT they have also recruited/gained several players from Wests, Joondalup, Baysie and even Soaks over the past two years, hence they’ll be fielding two teams in 18’s this year by the sounds of things and West, Joondalup and Soaks will struggle, just ask Bayies U16s team from last year who struggle to be competitive in 2012.

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    2013 Under 18 Competition is shaping up as:
    Wanneroo
    Uni
    Baysie
    Kala
    Paly
    Mandurah
    ie 6 teams!

    Joondalup, Wests, Southern Lions, Rocky and Soaks look highly unlikely.
    Nedlands and Cott definitely will not have under 18's.
    If Uni were struggling for numbers you may seem some action ; they are the protected ones.
    I’ve spoken to coaches from Southern Lions (Mikey & Miles) and Dave Wells from Joondalup, who both assure me they will have teams in this year’s 18’s comp following on from top four finishes in U16’s last year.

    I’ve heard several guys that left the Southern Lions to play at Paly last year are not happy and have returned back to the Lions, so the rumour is Paly are currently struggling for numbers in 18’s.

    So RWA are looking at 8 teams with Wanneroo’s 2nd team entry at this point in time or 9 if Paly get up.

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    U/18s numbers at Kala have not been great yet. With Pete Simpkins not coaching the boys this year some of last years U/16s have moved on. They are also having difficulty finding a coach. U/20s have the same core as last year so should be all right.
    Big improvement in premier grade would not surprise as we've been able to add to the team that started to come good at the end of last year. Can also confirm Anare Koliavu has joined Kala from Paly. Look for Jordy Pereira to kill it in premier grade this year. He is definitely one local youngster RWA should be seriously looking at.

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    How many do you think you need for a squad Pacman? A paly committee man told me two weeks ago that they already had 26 paid up under 18's. Do you consider this "struggling for numbers"? If you've got some facts put them on the table. Leave the rumours to me!

    Lions and Joondalup have entered teams in the U18 comp previously but have always folded before the end. Having a team and having a competitive, sustainable team are two different things. My list of 6 teams would fit that category. Lions and Joondalup may enter a team but won't last the distance.

    Wanneroo's 2nd team - that fell apart last year and will do the same this year, if RWA are crazy enough to let them in. RWA set the rules; they should live by them.

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    Rocky have a team of 18s training as does Southern Lions

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    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/spo...to-the-rescue/

    Nigel Genia was at Soaks last year, came over for a crack at the Force was the apparent reason. Just another example of RWA and Nesters academy missing/messing up development of Perth rugby. We need a development coach who can spot talent and get them involved in higher level rugby. Having guys in the academy for year upon year to then just disappear is ludicrous. Give them a crack on an EPS contract or short term contract instead of being a fall back option for second rate players. The local talent is there, it's just not getting recognised.

    Ps- Nester doesn't need to produce elite athletes, he needs to produce rugby players. Also having spoken to numerous local youngsters, Nester is not a popular bloke. The perception is he has his favourites and won't look outside of his "boys".

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    ... so the rumour is Paly are currently struggling for numbers in 18’s.
    Nah, Paly have sufficient numbers for under 18's.

    They're looking good in First and second grade with about 20 in the squad training to fill the two sides, which is very good for this early in the season. There were about 13 thirds and fourths training as well on Thursday, so it looks like the makings are there for a good season.

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    Speaking of all things club related - if team regos are due in tomorrow, does that mean we can expect some level of fixtures by the end of this week/next week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohepa View Post
    Rocky have a team of 18s training as does Southern Lions
    That's great news for the future of Rocky and Southern Suburbs rugby Hohepa!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RumourMonger View Post
    How many do you think you need for a squad Pacman? A paly committee man told me two weeks ago that they already had 26 paid up under 18's. Do you consider this "struggling for numbers"? If you've got some facts put them on the table. Leave the rumours to me!

    Lions and Joondalup have entered teams in the U18 comp previously but have always folded before the end. Having a team and having a competitive, sustainable team are two different things. My list of 6 teams would fit that category. Lions and Joondalup may enter a team but won't last the distance. .
    Well that's great news for mighty Paly; they have rung around since I last spoke with them and gotten these kids A into G and down to training.

    RM you predict Lions and JB to fold by seasons end - really?? I'll tell you some facts......Both their 16s squads who finished 3rd & 4th respectively last year are returning, unlike previous years where for example, 9 Lions U16's went to Paly for U18’s which included 3 state players.

    Quote Originally Posted by RumourMonger View Post
    Wanneroo's 2nd team - that fell apart last year and will do the same this year, if RWA are crazy enough to let them in. RWA set the rules; they should live by them.
    Agreed……..(choke choke)

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    Maybe we need to go back to U6 through to U17 then U19 and U21 and then onto Opens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTT View Post
    [url]We need a development coach who can spot talent and get them involved in higher level rugby. Having guys in the academy for year upon year to then just disappear is ludicrous. Give them a crack on an EPS contract or short term contract instead of being a fall back option for second rate players. The local talent is there, it's just not getting recognised.
    Couldn't agree more, EPS spots should be W.A filled and the Force also need another five local player contracts locked in stone, that'll give them a training squad of 40 odd players with some sort of contracts to rely on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westies man View Post
    Do not try to highjack this thread with negative derogatory shit
    You people just can't do it can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTT View Post
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/spo...to-the-rescue/

    Nigel Genia was at Soaks last year, came over for a crack at the Force was the apparent reason. Just another example of RWA and Nesters academy missing/messing up development of Perth rugby. We need a development coach who can spot talent and get them involved in higher level rugby. Having guys in the academy for year upon year to then just disappear is ludicrous. Give them a crack on an EPS contract or short term contract instead of being a fall back option for second rate players. The local talent is there, it's just not getting recognised.

    Ps- Nester doesn't need to produce elite athletes, he needs to produce rugby players. Also having spoken to numerous local youngsters, Nester is not a popular bloke. The perception is he has his favourites and won't look outside of his "boys".

    Reading the article it sounds like he has improved a lot, which he must have done to be playing at S15 level. From what I saw from him last year he was behind the picking order in club land regarding no 9's.

    The few games I saw him played for Soaks he wasn't that impressive. He was not bad, but not a stand out that you would take notice of him. He also played the last part of the season at 12 for Soaks and I think he wasn't in the starting 15 during finals.

    So was it a case of not getting rated for not getting an opportunity, or not getting the opportunity because he was not rated good enough?

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