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    Thumbs up 2011

    May have missed a few here or they have moved on....and didnt tell me

    Fairbrother
    Charles
    Cowan
    Sharpie
    Hosking
    Pocock
    Brown
    Hodgsie

    Sheehan
    Rupia
    Spanner
    Inman
    Nick
    JOC
    sHEPS

    RES: Turrel, Dunning, Ben Mac (impact off the bench !) Smith, Stannard,

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    This is what is available for 2011(33 in total) and in brackets my starting 15

    Props:
    Paul Alo-Emile
    Matt Dunning(Starting 15)
    Tim Fairbrother(Starting 15)
    Kieran Longbottom

    Prop/Hooker:
    Pekahou Cowan(Starting 15)

    Hooker:
    Nathan Charles
    Ryan Tyrrell
    Ben Whittaker

    Second Row:
    Nathan Sharpe(Starting 15)
    Phoenix Battye
    Tom Hockings
    Sam Wykes(Starting 15)

    Loose Forwards
    Richard Brown
    Matt Hodgson(Starting 15)
    Jono Jenkins
    Tevita Metuisela
    Ben McCalman(Starting 15)
    David Pocock(Starting 15)

    ScrumHalf:
    Brett Sheehan(Starting 15)
    James Stannard
    Mark Swanepoel
    Justin Turner

    Inside Backs:

    Willie Ripia(Five Eight)(Starting 15)
    Gene Fairbanks(Inside Centre)(Starting 15)
    Stefano Hunt
    Mitch Inman(Outside Centre)(Starting 15)
    Rory Sidey

    Outside Back
    David Smith
    Nick Cummins(Left Wing)(Starting 15)
    Pat Dellit
    Cameron Shepherd(Right Wing)(Starting 15)
    James O'Connor(Fullback)(Starting 15)
    Alfi Mafi Winger

    Utility Backs:
    Scott Staniforth
    Mark Bartholomeusz

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    Last edited by pieter blackie; 13-11-10 at 17:07. Reason: Added Smith

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    It will be a good line up. Its very early so we can only vaguely guess at the moment.

    1. Dunning
    2. Charles
    3. Fairbrother
    4. Sharpe
    5. Wykes
    6. Hodgeson
    7. Pocock
    8. McCalman
    9. Stannard
    10. Ripia
    11. Smith*
    12. Fairbanks
    13. Inman
    14. Cummins
    15. JOC

    The backline can be chopped and changed with those players who are all pretty versatile. We could probably put JOC at 13 to bring Sheps into the team at 15. Or if Fairbanks can play 13 (never seen him there though), then Stanners can come into 12 and JOC to fullback. No matter how you put them, they look decent. So i'm sure the coaches will find the best mix in the end.

    If we can get away with McCalman at 5 and Brown at 8, while moving Wykes to the bench that would probably work better. Depends on the scrum and line out though.

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    On RugbyWA players profiles they have JOC at Fullback and Sheps at Winger/Fullback

    And yes I missed David Smith

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    Whats the story with Alfi Mafi- did he end up passing the hamstring check-up? I would guess not if David Smith was on the radar (although to be honest I'd take a fit and healthy Mafi just to leave the marquee spot open). Otherwise if Mafi was on board I'd definitely look at playing JO'C as a 15/back up 10. We'd have some fairly flash players out wide already.

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    1) Dunning
    2) Charles
    3) Fairbrother
    4) Sharpe
    5) Wykes
    6) Pocock
    7) Hodgson
    8) McCalman
    9) Sheehan
    10) Ripia
    11) Smith
    12) Staniforth
    13) Inman
    14) Shepherd
    15) O'Connor

    16) Cowan 17) Hockings 18) Brown 19) Stannard 20) Hunt 21) Cummins 22) Bart

    I reckon the force should run a fast team like that and just steamroll over everyone.

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    Why is everyone picking Dunning to start? Last season he struggled off the bench and I dont think he showed anything during the Shute Shield to suggest he would be any better this year.

    Id go with

    Cowen
    Charles
    Fairbrother
    Hocking
    Sharpe
    Hodgson
    Pocock
    McCalman

    Sheehan
    Ripia
    Smith
    OConnor
    Inman
    Cummins
    Shepherd

    Whittaker
    Longbottom
    Wykes
    Brown
    Stannard
    Fairbanks
    Staniforth

    If everyone was fully fit (which they never will be).
    Hocking needs to start at 4 for me. We need someone to step up as the next lineout leader when Sharpe goes, and Wykes is more a converted backrow player.

    Id like to see OConnor at 12, especially with someone like Ripia at 10. OConnor will add the spark that Ripia hasnt got. Alternatively, he could do that from 15, in which case Spanner to 12 and Cummins to the bench.

    I hate seeing someone of Browns ability on the bench, but we have 4 international quality backrowers, and Brown is the most versatile of the lot. He can cover 6, 7 and 8, and the impact he has offered the Wallabies off of the bench has been huge. Get him on at the 50 min mark and we will get a lot of ball in the last 30 mins of a game.

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    i didnt think id see the day where Spanner was being left out of the starting lineup
    i still rate him as our best inside centre...

    Dunning
    Cowan
    Fairbrother
    Wykes
    Sharpe
    Hodgson
    Pocock
    McCalman

    Sheehan
    Ripia
    Smith
    Staniforth
    Cummins
    Shepherd
    OConnor

    Tyrell
    Longbottom
    Hockings
    Brown
    Stannard
    Inman
    Dellit

    willing to give Dellit a bench spot given the performances ive seen in the shute.. he has talent! Fairbanks is good injury cover for most backline positions as is Barto.. i dont think Jenkins will get a game this year unless we get nailed with injuries again and despite what people say about Dunning i still think he is a starter, certainly a better option than Cowan playing out of position..

    im just so happy to see genuine depth everywhere except lock where we at least have passable options.. BRING IT!

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    Burgs' Force XV 2011

    1 Pekahou Cowan
    2 Ben Whittaker
    3 Tim Fairbrother
    4 Tom Hockings
    5 Nathan Sharpe (C)
    6 Matt Hodgson
    7 David Pocock (VC)
    8 Ben McCalman

    9 Brett Sheehan
    10 Willie Ripia
    11 Scott Staniforth
    12 James O'Connor
    13 Mitch Inman
    14 David Smith/Nick Cummins
    15 Cameron Shepherd (VC)

    16 Nathan Charles
    17 Matt Dunning
    18 Sam Wykes
    19 Richard Brown
    20 James Stannard
    21 Gene Fairbanks
    22 Mark Bartholomeusz

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    Quote Originally Posted by farva View Post
    Why is everyone picking Dunning to start? Last season he struggled off the bench and I dont think he showed anything during the Shute Shield to suggest he would be any better this year.
    I couldn’t agree more Dunning was a liability last year when he came off the bench so having him as a starting player defies belief. Hopefully he has improved from last year but I can’t see him starting a match with other props fully fit. Off the bench considering he can play (fill in) on both sides of the scrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    Burgs' Force XV 2011

    1 Pekahou Cowan
    2 Ben Whittaker
    3 Tim Fairbrother
    4 Tom Hockings
    5 Nathan Sharpe (C)
    6 Matt Hodgson
    7 David Pocock (VC)
    8 Ben McCalman

    9 Brett Sheehan
    10 Willie Ripia
    11 Scott Staniforth
    12 James O'Connor
    13 Mitch Inman
    14 David Smith/Nick Cummins
    15 Cameron Shepherd (VC)

    16 Nathan Charles
    17 Matt Dunning
    18 Sam Wykes
    19 Richard Brown
    20 James Stannard
    21 Gene Fairbanks
    22 Mark Bartholomeusz
    I'm with you Burgs, with a possible switch at 11 & 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    I'm with you Burgs, with a possible switch at 11 & 12 ...
    ...during the phases and in defence

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandgroperrugby View Post
    I couldn’t agree more Dunning was a liability last year when he came off the bench so having him as a starting player defies belief. Hopefully he has improved from last year but I can’t see him starting a match with other props fully fit. Off the bench considering he can play (fill in) on both sides of the scrum.
    Dunning was playing with a concussion for most of last season - he picked it up in the first game and kept it from the trainers. I reckon he looked at the number of injuries we had and thought he wouldn't add to the woes. However, he definately wasn't right for the first half of the season. Once he had a week off he recovered and improved. I'm not going to bash him for playing hurt when we had injury problems all over the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    Dunning was playing with a concussion for most of last season - he picked it up in the first game and kept it from the trainers. I reckon he looked at the number of injuries we had and thought he wouldn't add to the woes. However, he definately wasn't right for the first half of the season. Once he had a week off he recovered and improved. I'm not going to bash him for playing hurt when we had injury problems all over the park.
    Didn’t know anything about any injury, if that’s the case then I wouldn’t bash him either for early poor form.

    I do remember him arguing with a ref after receiving another scrum penalty and getting told off by sharpie, I think it was whilst in the shaky isle against the Blues so later on in the season. Arguing with the ref after giving away multiple penalties you would have to be suffering from a concussion.

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    Matt Dunning has played his whole career as If he has had a concussion
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    ---------- Post added at 19:06 ---------- Previous post was at 19:04 ----------

    Also, I reckon Cummins will be the outside back with the fight on his hands, he hasn't exactly impressed me this year, I would put him behind David Smith if he does sign
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