The Ref

[Bronski Beat]

Referees
Can't live with em, can't run on the field and smash them
It creates stress that even alcohol can't fix

Piet is a doer, not a whinger.


If you had intervened last night, I am sure there would have been a nice cold Castle lagar and boerewors waiting for you after you had left the cop shop.

PS What was it like getting smashed by Ritchie that night?

[SleazyWineBaas]

Piet is a doer, not a whinger.


If you had intervened last night, I am sure there would have been a nice cold Castle lagar and boerewors waiting for you after you had left the cop shop.

PS What was it like getting smashed by Ritchie that night?

What?

[jazza93]

Yea right

When the force collapse the scrum they get penalised when the tahs collapse the scrum they get a reset and the force gets told to keep quite

How can the ref not award a penalty try in the last 3 min for professional foul when Turner came of side to try and intercept the ball We got the penalty but it should have been a penalty try Turner was of side to prevent us from scoring that is the same as a deliberate knock down or any other professional foul 5 meters out!!!

There are many more just go watch a replay

The force scrum coach said before the game that the tahs are good at holding the crouch and forcing other teams to lose their binds. It was exactly what happened in the end as well. But i'm sure it was the refs fault somehow.

And i don't think we were really in the act of scoring a certain try in the turner situation, but in the end we had about 3 penalties in the last few minutes and we didn't use any of them well. Halfbacks running themselves, Forwards running into tackles isolated.

The ref made mistakes but hardly lost us the game.

[Piet Van Ziel]

Piet is a doer, not a whinger.


If you had intervened last night, I am sure there would have been a nice cold Castle lagar and boerewors waiting for you after you had left the cop shop.

PS What was it like getting smashed by Ritchie that night?

No pain my friend
It wasn't McCaw. It was an allblack lock. I know where helives. His family is bang in trouble

[Ecky]

What do the laws say, especially in light of the 'new' interpretations, about a tackler lying on the ground holding on to the tackled players leg?
I swear I saw Waugh doing just that to Sharpey(??) at one point.

The tackler must release the tackled player immediately and then roll away.

That was one of the inconsistencies in last night's game, especially in that last few minutes. (imho)

[blueandblack]

Brumbies were doing that recently too.

[Burgs]

No Ecky, you are wrong and an idiot, just ask Jazza...

[jazza93]

This is your problem, i come up with valid arguments and when you lot have non left you turn to crappy insults, and whenever i reply with insults you guys cant handle them and my posts get deleted. And i did say the ref made mistakes for the last time, he didn't lose us the game though........

You would think that is the sign of people who may not be 100% correct and are trying to cover up something.

[Tonkar]

And you wonder why everyone always shuts you down. Because threads like this prove you know nothing. The ref was fine, but i bet none of you have ever picked up a law book in your lives so you would have to make up rule meanings in your head.

The main problem was the tahs cheating if anything, especially a masterclass from Phill Waugh in the last 5 mins, that is Richie McCaw standard rucking.

Hi Jazza
You asked for concise critizim As you quoted in the above statement. The main problem was the tahs cheating it is there written by you no one else and has your name to it

When I played any sport or any game if you get away with cheating only says that the person adudicating the game , tourement or comp is not doing there job as rules are there and yes all participants push them to the limit.

So as I see it the refs and assistance refs were not on the game and have not been doing there jobs correctly all season. Maybe there should be room for the on field ref to call for the TMo to be consulted in areas where he or she is not 100% sure

As we saw in previous weeks with the Sharks and Tahs a line call was wrong and it cost the Sharks the game
Again this is the officals not doing there job

So Please refrain from quoting all the crap and stop the bullying to prove your point as I have answer all your ??s with the only answer.
Do the job properly or ask for assistance to do it correctly more Refs use the TMO or reqyest for more training as that is done my most employers when emploees are not coping with changes made in industry

I can quote many instances in games where officals make to many bad mistakes so may be SANZAR needs to start a better retraining system to sotop tihis happing


Thanks for your time and I hope this answer some ??s

[Burgs]

That is kind of correct Jazza.
You come up with arguments that the vast majority disagree with and, when they disagree you go into a juvenile hissy fit, both denegrating the man and this site.
I would choose your words very carefully over the next few days as you are sailing very close to a holiday.

[jazza93]

Hi Jazza
You asked for concise critizim As you quoted in the above statement. The main problem was the tahs cheating it is there written by you no one else and has your name to it

When I played any sport or any game if you get away with cheating only says that the person adudicating the game , tourement or comp is not doing there job as rules are there and yes all participants push them to the limit.

So as I see it the refs and assistance refs were not on the game and have not been doing there jobs correctly all season. Maybe there should be room for the on field ref to call for the TMo to be consulted in areas where he or she is not 100% sure

As we saw in previous weeks with the Sharks and Tahs a line call was wrong and it cost the Sharks the game
Again this is the officals not doing there job

So Please refrain from quoting all the crap and stop the bullying to prove your point as I have answer all your ??s with the only answer.
Do the job properly or ask for assistance to do it correctly more Refs use the TMO or reqyest for more training as that is done my most employers when emploees are not coping with changes made in industry

I can quote many instances in games where officals make to many bad mistakes so may be SANZAR needs to start a better retraining system to sotop tihis happing


Thanks for your time and I hope this answer some ??s

When i said cheating, i mean it as an aspect of the game as it is now in pro rugby. The tahs use all sorts of smart and sneeky exploits to win games, that is why they are the N1 Australian team. Phill waugh in the least 5 minutes was expanding the gate for everyone to come in just like the all blacks do. It worked and somehow he did most of it within the laws. All i am saying is that when you KNOW phill waugh will get a turnover every time you run into him isolated, why should Hodgo do just that with 1 minute to go(just an example). It was not that the ref is bad or whatever, it was just that we were not as switched on as them. The force played really well though and the last 9 or so rounds look very promocing for us. Its just these little things such as tactics at the ruck and scrums we are behind in, especially when you take Pocock and Browne out of the side. So to sum it up kinda, it is not so much the officials, its just our young side that can't match the expliots of other teams just yet, and it does make the refs look byest against us every week to a lot of people.


Anyway im sick of these idiots on here(not you), all i did was reply to people and send back what they gave to me and anyone who bothers to look back on this thread post by post will see that. The problem is that they can't take what the give out which explains all the insults and deleted posts. Bye.

[pieter blackie]

Bye.

thanks for leaving have a rest and we will see you back when you feel better

[Burgs]

That's the trouble Jazz, you may believe that "all you did" was reply but you actually escalated every thread that involved you last night and acted completely inappropriately for this forum. You weren't alone but you were the main offender and provocateur and, as such, it is mainly your posts that have been deleted.
Take the advice to chill out.

[welshrugbyfan]

I'd say they sent the decent refs to ref the last round of the six nations. I said it in another post and I'll say it here.

The modern day scrum is killing our game as a spectator sport. Reset after reset after reset is rediculous.

Just get the ball in and 8 or 9 run off with it simple.

Here it is again. Skip to the 3 minute point. Every scrum should be like this. Penalties were hardly ever awarded during a scrum. Now a veteran front row forward still doesn't know why a team is being penalised.

If a new fan is going to switch over its going to be at a scrum now and half the other rules shouldn't be followed to the letter either. The ref used to shout "play on" "play on" all the time. Now it's stop/start -stop/start all bloody night.

I know I'm a dinosaur with these thoughts but the game just used to flow so much better in the past. I think the game has gotten slower, the players can just run faster now.

[Thequeerone]

I have never ever been to a Rugby Match and seen a Ref escorted off the pitch my security before. It is not something I ever wish to see again. The fact that it happened indicates that behind the scenes others were worried by his performance/decisions as well.

Completely unfair to our Team and their supporters in this a very frustrating season.