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    Quote Originally Posted by pruc View Post
    move away from britannia
    I second that statement and all the parents of junior players I know will support that as well

    It is a disaster every Saterday morning

    Why cant the juniors play home and away games like the rest of the world why do we have to be cramped into Britannia There is not enough parking the toilets is not enough and never gets cleaned........

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    Quote Originally Posted by pieter blackie View Post
    I second that statement and all the parents of junior players I know will support that as well

    It is a disaster every Saterday morning

    Why cant the juniors play home and away games like the rest of the world why do we have to be cramped into Britannia There is not enough parking the toilets is not enough and never gets cleaned........

    And my words was not even cold yet when I received a email containing the draw for the Junior grading games for Saturday morning starting at 08:00



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    FINAL FIXTURES GRADING GAMES

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    During the recent Wallabies V Barbarians game, I was intrigued to

    hear that Twickenham is regarded as the spiritual home of world

    Rugby. With our own spiritual heart lying in ruin I was wondering

    what alternatives there may be to Perry Lakes.

    I first proscribed arcs around the five western suburbs clubs,

    bisected the tangents linking them, squared the hypotenuse and

    disregarded the five outer Clubs. The result is the geographical

    centre of old Perth Rugby. It is situated quite close to the last

    resting place of one Vito-Maria Pascuale (RIP) in the southwest

    corner of Karrakatta cemetery. Hallowed ground yes but what if we

    include the other Clubs in the calculations?

    Michael H. Freedman of UCal, San Diego, working with graduate

    student Zheng-Xu He, recently proved Homer Simpson’s theory of a

    donut-shaped universe to be correct. "Geometric linking,

    independent of linking number, can be used to estimate a lower

    bound on the energy of an incompressible flow," Freedman says.

    "This suggests wider applicability of the topological lower-bound

    principle than was visible from Arnold’s work." Thus we may apply

    this latest revelation of quantum energy theory to our own

    competition; Kala’s time has come. Disregarding the soggy bit

    actually in the Indian Ocean, its time to have our doughnut and eat

    it too.

    On the Sideline, and looking backwards to the City, we see our

    high-energy doughnut rolling outwards from Karrakatta towards the

    hills. The outer Clubs now encompass the greater part of the energy

    doughnut and leave the inner Clubs vying for the dwindling remains

    around the hole (and Vito-Maria).

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    ipso facto, Emu Export rots the brain...

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    That ain't Emu Export, Coach, that's moonshine.

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    RugbyWA is making steps with the smarter then smoking 7's competition but basically they need to get into the schools through community development officers going and running clinics.
    RugbyWA has actually gone backwards in this regard 6 Development officers to 2 1/2 in two years is not really stepping in right direction

    Get out to the country areas, don't just limit club rugby to the metropolitan area.
    Again hard to do for same reason as above downsizing from 2 1/2 country Development Officers to 0 in two years!!!

    Im sorry to say but over the last two years and into the forseeable future resources for Rugby in WA will targeted at the Force and Force only. Little development will occur in club rugby at all if any.

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    i am with all who say 8 teams in premier is the way to go.

    THE GOOD; a higher standard of club rugby no easy games
    THE BAD ; two clubs will probaly never be the same again

    this could be played 14 rounds 2-3 weeks finals finnishing late july with a rep team tour in august

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    Ok, I know the traditionalists will hate this one, but hear me out and don't get hung up on the actual pairings and names etc.
    Remember, at the end of the day there is going to be give and take if we are going to see WA Club Rugby lift a level.

    1. 16 most viable Clubs become "First Grade" with low and equitable salary cap.

    2. Based primarily on geography, these 16 Clubs are paired to form 8 teams in "Premier Division". Paired Clubs go into opposite "Pool" from each other to form two Pools of 8.To encourage spread of talent between paired First Grade, measures are implemented such as max 14 players from each Club to be selected for Premier Team.
    Squad of X (25?) Premier players eligible for higher salary, up to Sydney standards.

    3. First Grade comprises two Rounds.
    Round 1: 15 weeks with full squads playing all teams. Week one would be the derby week between paired Clubs.
    Round 2: 7 weeks without Premier players playing Pool teams
    Top two from each Pool play Semi's and Final.
    A bye between Round 15 and Semi, Semi and Final.

    4. Premier Division to play 7 week single Round plus return week one "grudge match" in week 8.
    A bye between Round 8 and Semi, Semi and Final to allow players to return to First Grade for Semi's and Finals.

    5. Pre-match for Premier Division Final be two selections of players that haven't played Premier Division that season, hypothetically WA Governor XV v RWA Presidents XV.

    So, an example of the season:

    1 First Grade
    2 First Grade
    3 First Grade
    4 First Grade
    5 First Grade
    6 First Grade
    7 First Grade
    8 First Grade
    9 First Grade
    10 First Grade
    11 First Grade
    12 First Grade
    13 First Grade
    14 First Grade
    15 First Grade
    16 Bye
    17 First Grade Premier
    18 First Grade Premier
    19 First Grade Premier
    20 First Grade Premier
    21 First Grade Premier
    22 First Grade Premier
    23 First Grade Premier
    24 Bye Premier
    25 Semi Final Bye
    26 Bye Semi Final
    27 Final Bye
    28 Gov XV v Pres XV Final

    And now for the real hackles to go up, Club allocation!

    The most logical and dispassionate distribution I could come up with is as follows.
    Bearing in mind that, assuming viability through an increased sponsorship base for a better product, these Clubs are not what they are today, the "playing field" would be considerably leveled from the current situation.

    Pool A/Pool B/Premier
    Associates/Cottesloe/Coastal
    Wests/Nedlands/Central
    University/Curtin/Students
    Wanneroo/Joondalup/Northern
    Rockingham/Mandurah/Southern
    Kalamunda/Arks/South East
    Palmyra/Southern Lions/Rivers
    Perth Bayswater/Midland/Eastern

    Let the bashing begin

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    No one?

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    Well, Uncle Albert seems to agree with you, even if not enough to comment ...

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    you need comment? well i agree with you

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    I'm stunned that it hasn't been torn apart is more the point, but thank you for the support Albert

    Maybe I should send it in to RWA as a fully supported TWF proposal then

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    actually i think the fund would be the biggest problem. I don't think anyone want to pour the money

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    Could be right.
    Would need to time it with the start of the next mineral boom and aim for those like Australia's (frequent) richest man (Forrest-FMG) and ditto woman (Rinehart-Hancock Prospecting), who are both Western Australian's, to get one or both to sponsor the competition.
    Then chase up the likes of Westrac, Wesfarmers, Woodside, BGC, Midland Brick etc.
    If you could get go ahead local companies such as them to sponsor a premier zone team each for full naming and marketing rights then there would be a real base in the "market" and a flow on affect for each of the two feeder Clubs.
    Next thing you know junior players such as fabrication and hire companies would want their names next to the Corporates and be available to contribute.
    The snowball begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    I'm stunned that it hasn't been torn apart is more the point, but thank you for the support Albert

    Maybe I should send it in to RWA as a fully supported TWF proposal then
    I wouldn't know where to start... it would be like trying to defuse an atom bomb!

    I am banking on the lack of dissection being the result of appreciation of a sound workable process and not indifference.

    You should put it to the committee!

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