Rugby Heaven team of the week

[TOCC]

15 Sam Norton-Knight (NSW) (1)
14 Digby Ioane(Qld) (1)
13 Rob Horne (NSW) (1)
12 Stirling Mortlock (ACT) (1)
11 Lote Tuqiri(NSW) (1)
10 Christian Lealiifano (ACT) (1)
9 Patrick Phibbs (ACT) (1)
8 Leroy Houston(Qld) (1)
7 Phil Waugh (NSW) (1)
6 Julian Salvi (ACT) (1)
5 Dean Mumm (NSW) (1)
4 Mark Chisholm (ACT) (1)
3 Al Baxter (NSW) (1)
2 Tatafu Polota-Nau (NSW) (1)
1 Benn Robinson (NSW) (1)

(Number of times selected in brackets).

Player of the round: STIRLING MORTLOCK. An outstanding performance at No 12 winning the match for the Brumbies. The Kamikaze Kid was at his best.

Try of the round: DIGBY IOANE. A mad sprint, bob and a weave saw the Reds winger score an exhilarating 53 metre solo try.


full article
http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/n...632646142.html

[waratahjesus]

WHAT A FANTASTIC TEAM!

[TOCC]

i cant say i agree with Phil Waugh, that man played rubbish

[shasta]

WHAT A FANTASTIC TEAM!

Yep. Pocock and Brown would have been our only possibles and I agree with Tocc about Waugh, but it is an SMH team. Digby was fantastic. If he can start taking passes consistently he'll become a star.

[waratahjesus]

waugh had a pretty good game i thought, im biased though so it doesnt count! if only i could be more open minded like force fans!

without waugh nsw struggle, he is the same as mortlock is to the brumbies, he plays well, the whole team plays well!

[James]

It's about the first time I actually agree with the SMH team of the week about the number of Force players that should be on it.

I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist but I can tell you for sure that Waugh will be rooted in the number 7 spot on the SHM team of the week unless any of the other three (if he even credits Daniel Braid) put in a godly performance. Try to keep Waugh in national colours and so keep him in Australia.

[mudskipper]

Fantasy Rugby Points
to compair to the team of the SMH week just for a little reality...it doesn't match up

Tahs
Al Baxter 6
Tatafu Polota-Nau 14
Benn Robinson 9
Tahs Front row total = 29

Brumbies
Shepherdson 15
Moore 40
Henderson 12
Brumbies front row total = 67

AJ with a try = top Props list with King at 17 points

_________________
Tahs Loosies
Waugh 21
Fava 15
Mowen 17
Palu 1
total = 35
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Force Loosies
Pocock 31
Brown 31
Hodgson 12
Horua 8
total = 71

Brumbies Loosies
Smith 25
Salvi 19
Hoiles 21
Total = 65

[waratahjesus]

one stat that isnt there though in fantasy land is that the tahs won and the force lost, i had no idea so many of the force players performed so well, you would have thought they won by 40!
the tahs front row did well, they should be ranked higher but hey, winning is winning!

[mudskipper]

one stat that isnt there though in fantasy land is that the tahs won and the force lost, i had no idea so many of the force players performed so well, you would have thought they won by 40!
the tahs front row did well, they should be ranked higher but hey, winning is winning!

its interesting... clearly Pocock and Brown had good matches but not so for some others....


Here is some more Fantasy land points...

Outside Backs
Digby 38
Gerrard 34
AAC 25
Francis Fainifo 18
Va'alu 18
Lachie Turner 17
Tatupu 17
Lote 16
Mitchell 13
Sam Norton-Knight 10
Sare 9
Cameron Shepherd 4 ...........mmmmmmmmm....what was he doing all match?


You can see why the force lost... the loosies were doing the job but the Outside backs were not involved

[waratahjesus]

were is horne in that, he should be on 50000!

[mudskipper]

were is horne in that, he should be on 50000!

sorry outside backs AAC is listed as a fulllback....


OUTSIDE BACKS Fantasy points

Lord Mortlock 34
AAC 25
Giteau 24 (goal kicker)
Horne 19
Q.Cooper 15
Beale 13
Lealiifano 10
Tahu 10
JOC 7
Cross 7
T. cArter 7
Tyrone Smith 6 (on for 10-15 mintutes while Rathone was in blood bin)
Barnes 3.....?


Story is the same not enough work done by some....

[TOCC]

foxsports fantasy doesnt necessarily reflect a players performance though


My team of the week would be

15 Sam Norton-Knight (NSW)
14 Digby Ioane(Qld)
13 Rob Horne (NSW)
12 Stirling Mortlock (ACT)
11 Lote Tuqiri(NSW)
10 Matt Giteau (WA)
9 Will Genia (QLD)
8 Richard Brown (WA)
7 George Smith (ACT)
6 Julian Salvi (ACT)
5 Dean Mumm (NSW)
4 Mark Chisholm (ACT)
3 Al Baxter (NSW)
2 Stephen Moore (ACT)
1 Benn Robinson (NSW)

[mudskipper]

foxsports fantasy doesnt necessarily reflect a players performance though

True TOCC.... However its a measure of the players general involvement in the overall match:

Playing 1 - 60 minutes 1
Playing more than 60 minutes 2
For each try 5
For each try assist 2
For each try save 2
For each conversion 2
For each conversion miss -1
For each penalty 3
For each penalty miss -1
For each drop goal 3
For each drop goal miss -1
Yellow card -5
Red card -15
For each run 1
For each tackle bust 1
For each offload 1
For each linebreak 3
For each error -1
For each tackle made 1
For each tackle miss -2
For each lineout take on own throw 1
For each lineout steal on opposition throw 3
For each not straight -2
For each tight head won, awarded to entire front row 5
For each tight head lost, awarded to entire front row -5
Pilfers 4
For each turn over forced 2
For each penalty - long arm -2


look at Drew Mitchell had a stand out moment during the match scoring a 85 metre try but wasn't involved in the general match or made poor plays which cost him fantasy points. I wouldn’t say coaches should coach teams by this but it would reflect their general play stats... Looking at how the points are rewarded you would think a player would have to make 10 - 12 per match minimum...

[mudskipper]

Stephen Moore Fantasy 40 Points break down for example...
80 Minutes played +2
12 Runs +12
1 Tackles bust +1
3 Offloads +3
9 Tackles made +9
1 Tackles missed -2
10 Lineout takes +10
1 Tight heads won +5


Cameron Shepherd Fantasy 4 points
80 Minutes played +2
4 Runs +4
1 Tackles bust +1
1 Offloads +1
3 Tackles made +3
1 Tackles missed -2
5 Errors -5

by comparison another fullback

Mark Gerrard Fantasy 34 points
80 Minutes played +2
1 Tries +5
2 Conversions +4
2 Conversions missed -2
2 Penalties +6
1 Try assists +2
7 Runs +7
2 Tackles bust +2
1 Offloads +1
1 Linebreaks +3
7 Tackles made +7
1 Tackles missed -2
1 Errors -1


even if you takeaway Gerrards goal kicking he still was clearly involved in many facets of the match...

[mudskipper]

Stephen Moore Fantasy 40 Points break down for example...
80 Minutes played +2
12 Runs +12
1 Tackles bust +1
3 Offloads +3
9 Tackles made +9
1 Tackles missed -2
10 Lineout takes +10
1 Tight heads won +5

And check out all those set plays won by the BRUMBIES....its been a while...