Super Rugby ranking

[tdevil]

This is pick & go's new Super Rugby ranking table
which shows the ranking point positions of each
team since the first Super12 match in 1996.

Each team started on 80 points and they move up
and down relative to each other using the same
points exchange system that the IRB use for
ranking Test matches.

Exchange points are doubled for semis & finals

Points table before the start of this season:

1 Bulls SAF 88.5671
2 Brumbies AUS 85.0101
3 Chiefs NZL 84.8231
4 Sharks SAF 83.4510
5 Crusaders NZL 83.2574
6 Blues NZL 81.0460
7 Hurricanes NZL 79.0408
8 Stormers SAF 78.1598
9 Waratahs AUS 78.1064
10 Force AUS 77.6973
11 Highlanders NZL 76.5580
12 Cheetahs SAF 76.4991
13 Lions SAF 74.1899
14 Reds AUS 73.5940

Points table after round 5:

1 Crusaders NZL 88.1833 0.0000
2 Sharks SAF 85.9474 +0.1050
3 Hurricanes NZL 83.0419 +2.2200
4 Bulls SAF 81.8399 -2.8450
5 Blues NZL 81.7491 -1.7445
6 Waratahs AUS 81.0202 +1.0752
7 Force AUS 80.7934 +1.7445
8 Brumbies AUS 80.4020 -2.2200
9 Stormers SAF 80.3198 +1.5947
10 Chiefs NZL 80.0772 -1.5947
11 Reds AUS 75.5630 +2.8450
12 Highlanders NZL 73.8506 -0.7536
13 Lions SAF 73.7871 -0.1050
14 Cheetahs SAF 73.4250 0.0000

[littleleck]

how on earth could the crusaders not be at the top of the table pre season?
and with their highly successful 11 years leading up to this season, the brumbies have dropped 6 places in five rounds..? thats a bit rough

[tdevil]

Points table after round 6:

1 Crusaders NZL 88.1833 0.0000
2 Sharks SAF 85.9474 +0.1050
3 Hurricanes NZL 83.0419 +2.2200
4 Blues NZL 82.3062 +0.5571
5 Force AUS 81.3991 +0.6057
6 Chiefs NZL 81.3916 +1.3144
7 Waratahs AUS 81.0202 0.0000
8 Bulls SAF 80.5255 -1.3144
9 Brumbies AUS 80.4043 +0.0023
10 Stormers SAF 79.7627 -0.5571
11 Reds AUS 75.6854 +0.1224
12 Lions SAF 73.6647 -0.1224
13 Cheetahs SAF 73.4227 -0.0023
14 Highlanders NZL 73.2449 -0.6057

[gustafsl]

how on earth could the crusaders not be at the top of the table pre season?
and with their highly successful 11 years leading up to this season, the brumbies have dropped 6 places in five rounds..? thats a bit rough

The rating system uses the same as the IRB World Rankings. If you read the info on how that system works the idea is that the table is supposed to represent which team would win a game at a neutral event.

Considering the Bulls won the Super 14 last year it was reasonable they are at the top to start the year. Also don't forget the Crusaders lost their last game last year and this counted for double points. As for the Brumbies, when so many teams are bunched together it doesn't take long for them to drop. The same would be shown in the world rankings. NZ dominated world rugby for the last few years and were on top, but one bad showing at the world cup and they quickly dropped out of first place.

[GIGS20]

'Canes have been dodgy all season though, this must only count results in a very simplistic fashion!

[gustafsl]

'Canes have been dodgy all season though, this must only count results in a very simplistic fashion!

It only takes into account the result of the game. There is a slight bonus if you win big (I think 15 or more). But other then that you can play crap all game against a crap team and win by a drop goal after the final siren and it would still be the same as dominating the game and winning by 14 points.

So when the Hurricanes barely beat the Reds at home their ranking still would have gone up. When we lost to the Crusaders, even though they are clearly the number 1 team, our ranking would have gone down.

[GIGS20]

Yeah well, We'll beat the 'Canes by a cricket score this year, so that'll help. You'd think they'd factor the position of the teams into the calculation (ie beating the top team counts for more than beating the bottom team)......Saders beat Landers they don't do well, Landers beat Saders they lift a few places in the table!

[gustafsl]

You'd think they'd factor the position of the teams into the calculation (ie beating the top team counts for more than beating the bottom team)......Saders beat Landers they don't do well, Landers beat Saders they lift a few places in the table!

They sort of do this, but it isn't the position of the team that matters, it's the difference in ranking points between the two teams.

So if the Crusaders played the Highlanders there is about 15 points difference, so if Saders won they wouldn't go up much, but if Highlanders won they would go up a few.

Just look at the change in raking points from last week and that will give you an idea of the sort of changes that happen.

Look at the Reds and Lions, going into the week the Reds were ahead of the Lions but the since the Lions were home team they are considered to be two points ahead of where they were. So really they were favourite to win the game. Because it was tied Reds end up getting .122 points and the Lions lose the .122.

Crusaders demolished the Warratahs, but since there was such a big gap between the two teams they didn't change points at all.

[tic]

Yeah well, We'll beat the 'Canes by a cricket score this year, so that'll help. You'd think they'd factor the position of the teams into the calculation (ie beating the top team counts for more than beating the bottom team)......Saders beat Landers they don't do well, Landers beat Saders they lift a few places in the table!

I'd be a bit careful about these sort of predictions. The Hurricanes are a solid team and super rugby has a nasty habit of biting you on the bum when you start being cocky. Contrary to what many may think, this competition is reasonably tight from 1 down to 14.

[tdevil]

Points table after round 7:

1 Crusaders NZL 88.9692 +0.7859
2 Sharks SAF 85.9474 0.0000
3 Blues NZL 82.8281 +0.5219
4 Hurricanes NZL 82.2560 -0.7859
5 Stormers SAF 81.9582 +2.1955
6 Chiefs NZL 81.3916 0.0000
7 Waratahs AUS 81.0202 0.0000
8 Brumbies AUS 80.4043 +0.0023
9 Bulls SAF 80.0036 -0.5219
10 Force AUS 79.2037 -2.1955
11 Reds AUS 75.6854 0.0000
12 Lions SAF 73.6647 -0.1224
13 Cheetahs SAF 73.4227 0.0000
14 Highlanders NZL 73.2449 0.0000

[BLR]

Well that's a bit of a drop.

[force addict]

thats not the real super 14 table is it?

[BLR]

thats not the real super 14 table is it?

No, it's like IRB rankings...based on a pointing system not as much on the actual results.

[GIGS20]

Well it's probably only difficult to justify the current Brumbies team jumpin above us based upon Friday's game, Hope we have a similar jump upwards this sunday!

[tdevil]

Points table after round 8:

1 Crusaders NZL 88.9692 +0.7859
2 Sharks SAF 85.8783 -0.0691
3 Chiefs NZL 82.5929 +1.2013
4 Waratahs AUS 82.3414 +1.3212
5 Hurricanes NZL 82.3252 +0.0691
6 Stormers SAF 81.9582 +2.1955
7 Blues NZL 81.5069 -1.3212
8 Force AUS 79.9837 +0.7800
9 Bulls SAF 79.2236 -0.7800
10 Brumbies AUS 79.2030 -1.2013
11 Reds AUS 74.7592 -0.9263
12 Cheetahs SAF 74.3490 +0.9263
13 Highlanders NZL 73.9869 +0.7420
14 Lions SAF 72.9227 -0.7420