Stadium Discussion

[shasta]

Speaking of upgrading stadiums. Can anybody see any "heritage" value in that old stand at MES? I sure bloody can't.



Those arched entrance gates are a different story. Impressive and certainly worth retaining.

[The InnFORCEr]

Speaking of upgrading stadiums. Can anybody see any "heritage" value in that old stand at MES? I sure bloody can't.

About as much as I see in the Bell Tower, which is also Heritage Listed

[shasta]

About as much as I see in the Bell Tower, which is also Heritage Listed

That would have to be the youngest heritage listed building in history then. Maybe it's the bells themselves.

[BLR]

That would have to be the youngest heritage listed building in history then. Maybe it's the bells themselves.

So technically we could rip down the Bell Tower, take the bells and I dunno, sell them off to help pay for a rectangular stadium?

Anyone got a bulldozer handy?

[GIGS20]

How about the intelligent people on this site (perhaps at Bodgers burpday party) put their thinking caps on come up with a cheap building system that is the ultimate 27,500 seater stadium that meets the necessary criteria for a Super 14 competition game?

Let see - if we set of budget of say $47.5m.

Carefully using a soggy beer mat and a broken pencil record your detailed design criteria, financial cost projection, environmental management plan and future spectator growth and membership targets.

Then put the beer mat in the pocket of that jacket that you very rarely wear.

Then pull it of the jacket pocket around Christmas 2011 just before you throw the jacket out because it smells and wish that you'd presented along with our other demands to the government just after we'd brought the country to it's knee's with biggest full scale RIOT in the history of Australia!

Don't need to do anything 8, Town of Vincent have a funded proposal for ME at 25 (or maybe 28) which will cost 30 million, would that do?

[blueandblack]

Speaking of upgrading stadiums. Can anybody see any "heritage" value in that old stand at MES? I sure bloody can't.



Those arched entrance gates are a different story. Impressive and certainly worth retaining.

The East Perth Football Club members would kill you for that. The ground had a lot more heritage to it before the Allia Group tore it down.

[jargan83]

Were rugby supporters, we don't care about East Perth Football Club. And anyway, if they gave a crap about the ground they wouldn't have shifted grounds. Its a retangular ground now (no offence B&B)

[GIGS20]

Heritage value has nothing to do with the beauty of a structure but the historical value of it. I don't know how many WA heroes of the past changed in those changerooms, nor do I care, but I am not interested in messing with heritage listing, once we start doing that we are standing on a slippery slope.

That being said, the heritage value can be preserved creatively by making the original rooms part of a bigger structure somehow!

[shasta]

Heritage value has nothing to do with the beauty of a structure but the historical value of it.

Matter of opinion, GIGGS. Don't know if that's yours or the people appointed to tell us what we should consider of value. On the stand I don't share it. The beautiful old stands at North Sydney Oval & Sydney Cricket Ground are another story - just like the turnstile gates at "Perth Oval." The way the MCG has changed over the years didn't worry much about past heroes in the change rooms or the old structures.

The most common way heritage sites are preserved, where there is a public interest in development, is by preserving the facade of the building. In this case I think making a feature of those old gates is the best way to go.

[jargan83]

Gut the stand and refurbish the insides, then build around the original stand in any refurbishment of the ground as a whole

[The InnFORCEr]

The way the MCG has changed over the years didn't worry much about past heroes in the change rooms or the old structures.

I did the MCG tour a year or so ago around Commonwealth Games time and it was stated that "there is not one single brick left in the MCG that was there when they host the Olympic Games" Not sure of the year but TLH could probably tell us, he was well truley drinking age when it was on!

[Swee_82]

I could be a total nerd and tell you it was 1956...

[jargan83]

Don't worry swee, i knew that as well

[Swee_82]

Mate we've got trivia night sewn up then!

[The InnFORCEr]

I could be a total nerd and tell you it was 1956...

Don't worry swee, i knew that as well

All I need to know about the MCG's historical years are these 14 little rippers - 1902, 1903, 1910, 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, 1953, 1958 and 1990.

Mate we've got trivia night sewn up then!

Well it may just be worth taking a note of these