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I think you're right on the money there Tif. Aus would probably be ahead of both NZ and SA in terms of ELVs. That is probably the reason we didn't do too well this WC, our pack would be more 'mobile' and less 'technical' (for want of better terms) If the ELV's are adopted holus bolus next year sometime,I think Aus will have a significant head start into the world cup, if not..........we're screwed!