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    2024 Western Australia Schoolboys XV

    There isn't one.

    Despite generations of raising community funds and scraping together the necessary support to send previous Squads, RugbyWA has not seen fit to send a WA presence to the 50th Anniversary Tournament.

    There is a NSWJRU hosted Barbarians XV which you would assume WA could have nominated players for and could've at least allowed some presence, but looking at the story linked below and, despite Northern Territory, South Australia and Tasmania managing a player to that team, to my knowledge, none are from WA.

    I hear some talk of not meeting RWA's "strategy".
    If that is the case, I would suggest the rest of Australia have a different strategy, as literally every other catchment has a presence.

    https://schoolsrugby.com.au/boys-xvs-team-lists/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgs View Post
    There isn't one.

    Despite generations of raising community funds and scraping together the necessary support to send previous Squads, RugbyWA has not seen fit to send a WA presence to the 50th Anniversary Tournament.

    There is a NSWJRU hosted Barbarians XV which you would assume WA could have nominated players for and could've at least allowed some presence, but looking at the story linked below and, despite Northern Territory, South Australia and Tasmania managing a player to that team, to my knowledge, none are from WA.

    I hear some talk of not meeting RWA's "strategy".
    If that is the case, I would suggest the rest of Australia have a different strategy, as literally every other catchment has a presence.

    https://schoolsrugby.com.au/boys-xvs-team-lists/
    The answer to your question is simply answered by one world “RUGBYWA”

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    I'm strongly opposed to this constant RugbyWA bashing.

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    This matter has been well covered in previous years.
    The Schoolboys competition is run outside the program that is run through RAu and the State Unions which has a focus on the U16 and U19 national competitions. These lead to representing Australia in the U20 competition.

    The WF and RugbyWA has just completed the promoting rugby competition for secondary school boys and girls between 13 schools across the metropolitan area - playing for the UWA Western Force Cups. These boys and girls involved are free to play for the local clubs if they are attracted to rugby union. Most of the school teams included players who already are.

    Like other school trips, if players want to be involved then the fund raising for involvement is usually up the the students and parents.
    As I understand it, in the Private Schools, if students play the school then they are unable to play club rugby because the private schools play on Saturday as well. Hence the Secondary School focus.

    Although I understand that the schoolboy competition may have been established before the U16 and U19 programmes it's now been superseded. To have this issue raised each year is tiresome.

    It also has NOTHING to do with the Western Force which for me is what TWF (The Western Force Supporters Site) is all about.

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    Since you seem to have all the answers perhaps you can tell us the reasoning behind about why there is no Perth Gold squad this season or has that been superseded as well, apologies if this post does not meet the criteria to be allowed to post on The Western Force Supporters Site

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    Quote Originally Posted by westies man View Post
    Since you seem to have all the answers perhaps you can tell us the reasoning behind about why there is no Perth Gold squad this season or has that been superseded as well, apologies if this post does not meet the criteria to be allowed to post on The Western Force Supporters Site
    I certainly DO NOT have all of the answers............

    Perhaps you can advise what competition Perth Gold would play in. Against which other teams?

    The game is serious trouble with some teams, some State Unions and RAu experiencing financial difficulties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg View Post
    It also has NOTHING to do with the Western Force which for me is what TWF (The Western Force Supporters Site) is all about.
    There are literally three sub-forums on this website dedicated to this kind of thing. If you don't like it maybe steer clear of the WA Metro Rugby sub-forum, WA Country Rugby sub-forum and the WA School Boys sub-forum.

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    Good advice Jargon83.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulvio sammut View Post
    I'm strongly opposed to this constant RugbyWA bashing.
    i'm sure you are!,lol

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    Now, now, Gunny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokendown gunfighter View Post
    i'm sure you are!,lol
    Aren't you supposed to be off somewhere playing golf or drinking Leo's or something?

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    1. WA historically

    WAJRU U14 XV
    WASRU U15 XV
    WAJRU U16 XV
    WASRU Open Schoolboys XV

    This gave a continuous transition through the ages as different boys were at different stages of growth, without any extensive jumps in size. Tours were largely player family funded through raffles and lamington drives and the touring party were billeted out to destination host families.

    2. Every other State/Province has managed to have a presence at the Tournament to celebrate the 50th year, with NSW (NSW I, NSW II & NSWJRU Clubs XV), Qld (2), ACT (1), Victoria (1) and a Combined States-Barbarians XV hosted by NSWJRU.

    3. The UWA Western Force Cup, as the name suggests, is sponsored by UWA and coordinated by the Force.
    https://westernforce.rugby/news/west...tition-2022711

    4. The most dominate Schoolboys School in WA at the moment is Aranmore, who are outside of the PSA. They absolutely dominate the UWA Western Force Cup, with other non-PSA Schools actively trying to avoid playing them. Admission into the PSA system would be an advantage to WA Rugby, but highly political to achieve with the existing seven members.
    The PSA currently has a wide range of skills and depth.
    This year I have seen each 1st XV at least once.
    Scoth and Hale are on a par and will have a cracking final round for the Cup in a few weeks.
    Trinity, who have been strong since the early 90's have fallen away to be third ranked, with Aquinas next in talent.
    Guildford and Wesley have some good players, but are not up to the long term standard of PSA Rugby.
    Christchurch are battling for numbers and I hear rumour they may have, or are about to, forfeit the1st XV season.

    5. The current WA Youth Rep Situation

    U15 Boys
    WARU North XV
    WARU Central XV
    WARU South XV

    U16 Boys
    WARU North XV
    WARU Central XV
    WARU South XV
    Western Force U16 XV

    U16 Girls
    WARU Black XV
    WARU Gold XV

    U18 Girls
    WARU Black XV
    WARU Gold XV

    U19 Boys
    Western Force U19 XV

    6. The NSW Youth Rep Situation

    U12 Boys
    NSW Primary Schools Sports Association (PSSA) 1st XV

    U12 Girls
    PSSA 7s

    U14 Boys
    Sydney Junior RU (SJRU) Blue XV
    SJRU Red XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSW Country RU (NSWCRU) XV

    U14 Girls
    SJRU Blue XV
    SJRU Red XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSWCRU XV

    U15 Boys
    SJRU Blue XV
    SJRU Red XV
    SJRU Barbarians XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSWCRU XV
    Waratahs U15 XV

    U16 Boys
    Association of Independent Co-Educational Schools (AICES) 1st XV
    Associated Schools of NSW Inc (CAS) 1st XV
    NSW Combined Catholic Colleges (NSWCCC) 1st XV
    Combined High Schools (CHS) 1st XV XV
    Great Public Schools of NSW (GPS) Presidents A XV
    GPS Presidents B XV
    Independent Schools Association (ISA) Black XV
    ISA Gold XV
    SJRU Blue XV
    SJRU Red XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSWCRU XV
    NSWJRU Presidents XV
    NSW Schools I XV
    NSW Schools II XV
    Waratahs U16 XV

    U16 Girls
    ISA 7s
    SJRU Blue XV
    SJRU Red XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSWCRU XV

    Open Boys
    AICES 1st XV
    CAS 1st XV
    CAS 2nd XV
    NSWCCC 1st XV
    CHS 1st XV
    CHS 2nd XV
    GPS 1st XV
    GPS 2nd XV
    GPS Blue XV
    GPS White XV
    ISA 1st XV
    ISA 2nd XV
    SJRU Sydney XV
    SJRU Sydney Shadows XV
    NSWCRU
    Waratahs U18
    NSW Schools I XV
    NSW Schools II XV
    NSW Juniors XV
    NSWJRU Barbarians XV

    U18 Girls
    ISA 7s
    SJRU Sydney XV
    NSWCRU XV
    NSW All Schools XV

    6. Brisbane/Queensland have a little bit different system, but similar numbers of Rep Teams competing

    7. While Western Australia obviously doesn't have the same numbers of players available, to somehow suggest that less playing opportunities with bigger age gaps in pathways is "progressive", while the Heartland States have it wrong is bizarre.

    8. I personally know of several (and anecdotally of approximately twenty) of our best Juniors having left the State or imminent, both Interstate and International, to pursue offered opportunities that are non-existent or personally blocked to them here in WA.

    9. Sources tell me that RWA take action and view very dimly any proactive work by anyone other than RWA around inbound and away Tours, while such opportunities are on offer to organise rapidly.

    10. Developing future local players for higher honours is core business for RWA, amongst other KPI's, and by extension these development pathways and seeking best practice around that is absolutely one of the many fields of discussion for this forum.

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    Meanwhile, another where WA aren't attending either...

    Excitement building for Southern States Junior Championship in Adelaide

    Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 12:30 PM
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    Tassie’s most promising rugby talents are eyeing national glory at next week’s junior championships in Adelaide.

    The Tasmanian Rugby Union (TRU) will field four sides (under 14 boys, under 16 girls, under 16 boys, under 18 boys) at the Southern States tournament with a selection of under 18 girls also named in Rugby Australia’s invitational squad.

    After a strong start to the statewide junior competition, TRU competitions manager Nick Marshall is excited to see Tassie’s best youngsters don the green and gold.

    “We’re really pleased with the start to our 2024 competition. It’s been a great lead-in to representative rugby,” Marshall said.

    “Southern States will pit our juniors against the some of the best rugby players across the country. It’s going to be a tough task but we think they’re up for the challenge.”

    Each Tasmanian side will tackle Victoria, South Australia and Northern Territory in a round-robin format before a final play-off fixture.

    Meanwhile the girls named in Rugby Australia’s under 18 Barbarians side face a challenging two-day block with four games against hosts South Australia.

    “It’s a great time for rugby at the moment with the Wallabies, Wallaroos and Olympic Sevens teams all in action,” Marshall said.

    “We’re hoping a taste of representative rugby will inspire these young players to make their own memories in green and gold, whether that’s for Tassie or higher honours down the line.”

    The Southern States tournament kicks off in Adelaide on Tuesday 9 July and runs through to Friday July 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    Aren't you supposed to be off somewhere playing golf or drinking Leo's or something?
    late next month

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    Sounds like a great opportunity to represent your State and push for a career in Rugby...

    Catch Australia's next superstar at the 2024 Southern States Junior Championships

    Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 10:30 AM
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    A future Wallaby, Wallaroo or Sevens star could be snapped up this week as Victoria, Tasmania and the Northern Territory head to South Australia for their 2024 showpiece event.

    The Southern States Junior Championship - commonly referred to as "Southern States" - brings together the best youngsters from non-traditional and emerging Member Unions for a four-day tournament.

    Tickets to the Wallabies 2024 Home Tests are available to purchase here.

    There's not just state pride on the line either with members of Rugby Australia's high performance unit on deck to ID the nation's next Bienne Terita or Tate McDermott.

    This year's Southern States kicks off Tuesday July 9 in West Beach, Adelaide, and will be streamed exclusively via Rugby Australia's channels - here's everything you need to know:

    Who's taking part?
    Four member unions will be represented across 20 teams.

    Rugby Victoria (five teams), NT Rugby Union (four teams), Tasmanian Rugby Union (four teams) and hosts Rugby Union South Australia (six teams) are all fielding sides with Rugby Australia also compiling a Barbarians side*.

    Rugby Victoria - U14 Girls, U14 Boys, U16 Girls, U16 Boys, U18 Boys

    NT Rugby Union - U14 Boys, U16 Boys, U18 Boys, U16 Girls

    Tasmanian Rugby Union - U14 Boys, U16 Boys, U18 Boys, U16 Girls

    Rugby Union South Australia - U14 Girls, U14 Boys, U16 Girls, U16 Boys, U18 Girls, U18 Boys

    *Rugby Australia Barbarians - U18 Girls (combined Victoria, Tasmania, Northern Territory players)

    What's the tournament format?
    Each state team will play four games across two days - three round robin fixtures before a final play-off.

    Play-off positions will be determined by rank following round robin (i.e. 1 v 2 & 3 v 4)

    This format applies to all divisions excluding the U14 and U18 girls.

    July 9-10 sees the U14s in action with U16s and U18s to follow on July 11-12.

    Click here for the full 2024 Southern States draw via Rugby Xplorer. https://xplorer.rugby/ssjru/fixtures...4&tab=Fixtures

    How can I follow the tournament?
    Great question - the answer is you've got plenty of options.

    First, keep an eye out on rugby.com.au for rolling coverage of each day's play, where we'll break down the results live and tie in photos/content from the Member Unions on deck.

    You can also watch full match replays from the tournament via https://www.rugby.com.au/videos.

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