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Dear Lord, if you give us back Johnny Cash, we'll give you Justin Bieber.
There are still some mind boggling errors made by TMOs in both codes but the system works OK in most cases, I reckon. One area in RL that is suss is that the TMO can rule knock-ons but not forward passes. You see many cases where it's just about impossible to say the ball was knocked forward or back and yet a decision is given, rather than benefit of the doubt.Originally Posted by joblot
Anyone think there could be a little scope for "benefit of the doubt" in RU, say for example when a maul is driven over, looks like the ball was probably grounded but no camera angle shows it? There were plenty of "judgement calls" on these before TMO was introduced.
Of course the TMO can't rule a forward pass, he's not standing in line with the passer.
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Exactly, Sage. So it's inconsistent to allow the TMO to rule knock-ons too is what I'm saying. There should be stronger emphasis on benefit of the doubt in many cases.Originally Posted by Sagerian
Mmmm *grumble grumble* but you can generally see a knock on. Agreed it should definitely be left alone on the close ones.
And you can't generally see a forward pass??Originally Posted by Sagerian
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oh coach you know what i meant... meant she is the wife of Old Man Cringle.
And my mum looks better than i do and i'm only 19.![]()
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we prefer to call them "extremly flat passes"
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I can, yes. TMO's can't.Originally Posted by shasta
a knock on is easier to see than a forward pass
they also call it line ballwe prefer to call them "extremly flat passes"
I've talked to Dad again and he reminded me what sparked the question in the first place which raises the problem we had in working it out.
Mum asked the question following the ref asking the TMO 'Did number 4 ground the ball?'
What if the ref had said the wrong number and a try had in fact been scored, but it was by a different number.
Can the TMO only say yes or no or can they say that the ref got it wrong and it was say, number 14 who scored the try?
I am trying to remember something that we discussed in the forums last year - but I can't find it.
But - I am sure there was a change of rule last year that when calling for the TMO the Referee only asks one question: "Is there any reason why I can't award the try?"
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I still hear them ask for the TMO to check grounding or check to see if he's in touch. They still must check what they can, but I'm still pretty sure they just check it on that particular phase, I don't think they go back to check the whole run of play.
Can you check to see that a player has checked where the ball has been grounded? I'm pretty sure if you don't check to see if the player has asked to check that the checking of the ball was completed, the referee then checks to see if he knows anyone called Bob.
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