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    actually,looking at the interview,it appears to me that he wasn't anti gay at all,but implying the football(AFL) industry still is

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    either way. his comments - whether they reflect the attitude of the AFL as a whole or not have done nothing to help the mentality of any homosexual footy players out there.

    there should be no pressure to come out or not to come out...
    it's a personal choice whether you want to or not. there shouldnt be any pressure that it is going to rip your team apart. i'd seriously doubt that it would...

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    I'm not an anti-semite, but I, my workmates, and employer celebrate Easter and Christmas. I think any Jewish people working here should continue pretending they are in fact Christain and not let anyone else know they are Jewish as it could make the rest of us feel a little uncomfortable at the lunch table.

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    thats a personal thing,
    this is a pretty sensitive issue as well.
    i just dont understand how one player can speak for an entire leauge.
    i have always thought he is a complete wanker, and now i can add homophobe to the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    I'm not an anti-semite, but I, my workmates, and employer celebrate Easter and Christmas. I think any Jewish people working here should continue pretending they are in fact Christain and not let anyone else know they are Jewish as it could make the rest of us feel a little uncomfortable at the lunch table.
    especially when they refuse to eat the ham sandwiches

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    lol then they should go work construction on that big eyesore in mosman park!

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    Aka is being a bit harsh.

    Everyone knows the hardest part of being a soccer or AFL player is telling your family your gay. Just because he has the ability to do this with his haircuts, doesn't mean all the other players can. Especially the ones with no hair to colour, they are the real victims here.

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    Maybe we just assume that all AFL players are gay to begin with and be done with it.

    Then, if an individual player feels compelled, he can come out as hetero, which should then be a massive non-event.

    (... not that I spend much of my time thinking about AFL players' sexualities ... who does that, anyway?)

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    They just had an interview with everyone's favourite gay footballer Ian Roberts on TNL - he made an interesting comment that Aka seems to expect homosexuals to take responsibility for other people's feelings.

    (On a side note would you call THIS guy a fairy to his face?) [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqs2iE5_HTI&feature=related"]YouTube- Mick Cassidy comes to a sudden stop.[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by beige View Post
    They just had an interview with everyone's favourite gay footballer Ian Roberts on TNL - he made an interesting comment that Aka seems to expect homosexuals to take responsibility for other people's feelings.

    would have liked to have seen that.

    thats a pretty good point hey!

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    Seems to me that what he actually said has been taken out of context a little.
    He is making an observation having spent many years in that environment rather than giving his own opinion on homosexuality.
    As with drugs, adultery, speeding, vomiting in public, when you are a pro athlete you are faced with different rules.
    Might not be right but it's a fact of life.

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    They were taken out of context but that point that Roberts made still stands... and not forgetting he came out in 1994 while he was still at Manly...

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    That's fine, but a player should make his choices knowing the environment.

    In the tough unfair world that normally leads to court cases should therefore other people be expected to take responsibility for homosexual’s feelings?

    And before I get pigeon-holed as a redneck, I am devils advocating the article at hand rather giving my own opinion.

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    It is different cos in one case you're made to feel guilty about how you're born whereas in the other case you're made to feel guilty for having a bigoted opinion.

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    This is what Ackermanis actually wrote in his regular column for the Herald Sun for those who havent seen the original article as opposed to what other media outlets chose to focus on with their own takes the whole thing

    HOMOSEXUAL hunting in AFL circles should stop.
    Two former AFL players are rumoured to have been offered $150,000 to be the first to publicly come out as gay.

    And rumours in the past two weeks suggested a Victorian-based player was ready to out himself - rumours that have been baseless.

    If a player wants to out himself, then I say good luck.

    But I believe the world of AFL footy is not ready for it. To come out is unnecessary for a lot of reasons.

    Imagine the publicity associated with a current player admitting he's gay. It would be international news and could break the fabric of a club.

    Football clubs are very different environments. Locker room nudity is an everyday part of our lives and unlike any other work place.

    I believe it would cause discomfort in that environment should someone declare himself gay.

    I have played with a gay player in the twos for Mayne in Queensland in the mid-1990s who was happy to admit his sexual persuasion. He was a great guy who played his heart out and was respected by everyone in the team.

    The only time I noticed a difference was when I was showering with 10 other players after a good win and I turned around to see all 10 heading out in a second with their towels. Sure enough, our gay teammate had wandered in.

    For some reason I felt uncomfortable, so I left. I am sure most players these days would do the same.

    I know he wasn't about to try and convert me to his way of thinking, but I was uncomfortable all the same.

    What I should have done was to sit down and talk with him in an attempt to understand his life.

    Away from football, I'm all for any initiative that helps lessen public bias against homosexuality, such as IDAHO (International Day Against Homophobia), which was run on Monday.

    If you thought suicide was bad among young men, it is four to six times higher for people who are attracted to the same sex. It clearly can be a difficult and lonely road, one that hopefully can be made easier.

    Now try being the first AFL player to come out. That is too big a burden for any player.

    I know there are many who think a public AFL outing would break down homophobia, but they don't live in football clubs. It's not the job of the minority to make the environment safer. Not now, anyway.

    We have made massive steps in other areas of society and in time I hope the environment changes to a degree where coming out isn't a big deal.

    In women's sport - tennis, golf, cricket, hockey and soccer - being gay carries no stigma. But men's sport is well behind in acceptance.

    Take American-born British national John Amaechi, who became the first NBA professional to come out when he published his book Man in the Middle.

    Amaechi claims he has spoken to a dozen professional players who are gay. He says none have asked him if they should come out, but if they did he would tell them not to.

    After all he is not a gay rights activist.

    In an athletic environment the rules are different from the cultural rules for men.

    Never in a mall will you see two straight men hugging, a--- slapping and jumping around like kids after an important goal.

    Locker room nudity and homoerotic activities are normal inside footy clubs.

    Young people from the ages 15-24 are the main participants in organised sport in Victoria. Some of them must be gay and I hope they thoroughly enjoy their sporting lives without having to experience any form of prejudice.

    But if they are thinking of telling the world, my advice would be forget it.
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1225868871934

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