Unfathomable isn't it?Originally Posted by jargan83
"Remember lads, rugby is a team game; all 14 of you make sure you pass the ball to Giteau."
apparently the recordings only reached them late yesterday so id say thats the reason for the delay rather than anything else but keep on with the speculation its far more entetaining
Henjak ready to lift lid on Force
By Wayne Smith
February 21, 2008
THE Australian Rugby Union is set to decide Matt Henjak's future but the repercussions of the incident that has placed his career in jeopardy could reverberate for weeks to come and await his Western Force teammates on their return from South Africa.
RugbyWA has passed on to the ARU the recommendation of its code of conduct tribunal that Henjak's Force contract be terminated, but the troubled half-back's future will remain in limbo until the national body examines the hearing transcripts.
Even if the ARU endorses the recommendation, Henjak then has five business days to lodge an appeal - although it is unclear whether, like Wendell Sailor following his two-year drug ban, he will bother to go to the expense of challenging his effective ejection from the game in Australia.
However, sources close to Henjak said the former Australia half-back disputes some of the alleged facts and findings of the tribunal, opening up the possibility of an appeal if the ARU tears up his contract. (Hardly suprising...we've heard a billion different accounts and like i've said before, RugbyWA's explanation of events does not match Haig's penalties or the injuries suffered)
Either way, there is a distinct possibility that Henjak will not go quietly. He is also understood to be seriously considering "lifting the lid" on the culture of the Western Force and RugbyWA's handling of a number of disciplinary incidents. (Ok he may be an idiot...but surely not that stupid)
If Henjak is shown the door by the ARU, it is unclear where he will go. His former Force boss Peter O'Meara said the 26-year-old had told him recently that he had no interest in switching to rugby league, which may be fortuitous because attempts by Henjak's manager, Greg Keenan, to offer his services to NRL clubs appear to have evoked no interest whatever.
The player's best option would appear to be to remain in rugby overseas.
As hardline as ARU chief executive John O'Neill has been on disciplinary matters since returning to the job in mid-2007, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the ARU could review the tribunal's findings and decide to lighten Henjak's penalty to a heavy fine and a severe suspension.
Yet that is a long shot at best, especially in light of the unusually graphic language contained in the official statement released following the marathon eight-hour tribunal hearing in Perth on Tuesday night. In one passage, the tribunal members said they were satisfied Henjak "punched (teammate) Haig Sare when Haig was sitting down vulnerable and unable to defend himself ... the committee was unable to find any justification for that assault which probably caused Haig Sare's jaw to be broken".
While the ARU is left to wrestle with the finer detail, the Force already has turned its attention to two broad questions that flow from the February 10 blow-up at a Fremantle bar.
Why were as many as eight of their players out socialising just two days before the team's departure for a three-match Super 14 tour of South Africa?
And why did the players not intervene to separate Henjak and Sare, particularly as their dispute spread over three distinct phases?
The initial argument occurred in the toilets of the bar, flared up again in the middle of the busy establishment, and then erupted a third time outside in the street. (Ok this is different again...wtf!?)
Force captain Nathan Sharpe, speaking from South Africa, said the team had discussed the issue at some length. "We've got to act quicker," Sharpe said. (How is this the team's fault!? Seriously, they're grown men! Interesting thought that Sharpie was there..)
"It's disappointing as a team that we let it get to the point it did. But the two of them left the pub on the intention of talking things through outside and they were left on their own."
Acting Force chief executive Mitch Hardy intends to press for an explanation of why the players were in a bar in the first place.
Although former Force half-back Chris O'Young has quit Glasgow Warriors to rejoin Perth club, he will not be named in the 22 for the round-two match against the Cheetahs, with James Stannard to make his starting debut at half-back in place of Henjak.
The Australian
Fair enough but i find it interesting they even asked for the transcript in the first place. Do they really need the 8 hr transcript? Why can't they go off the report of RugbyWA?apparently the recordings only reached them late yesterday so id say thats the reason for the delay rather than anything else but keep on with the speculation its far more entetaining
I think it shows henjaks disloyalty and immaturity if he lifts the lid on force if there is anything to be lifted
Probably so they can give it all to SMH to put thier spin on it and further discredit the Force.
As hardline as ARU chief executive John O'Neill has been on disciplinary matters (on teams outside NSW) since returning to the job in mid-2007, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the ARU could review the tribunal's findings and decide to lighten Henjak's penalty to a heavy fine and a severe suspension.
You missed a bit Jehna
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The plot thickens......i think
the part of that article (sorry Jehna but i cant "quote" on my mobile") about the fight happening in 3 phases is also on the front of the super rugby liftout in todays paper
... or are the ARU just prolonging the misery?
Success is not final, failure is not fatal:
it is the courage to continue that counts.
- Winston Churchill
Looks like Henners is heading down the "bitter route" if the threats to expose the Force are true. Pretty disappointed with that suggestion and my respect for the bugger is quickly eroding (might have to get intouch with the local witchdoctor and get a few curses underway).
You've got to be kidding me right? "Socialising" is not allowed now?
Don't believe everything you read in the press, KenyaQuin.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal:
it is the courage to continue that counts.
- Winston Churchill
WhatOhhhh Crap. You mean we can't trust the press
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Depends which 'realm' you live in I guess Flame...As hardline as ARU chief executive John O'Neill has been on disciplinary matters (on teams outside NSW) since returning to the job in mid-2007, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the ARU could review the tribunal's findings and decide to lighten Henjak's penalty to a heavy fine and a severe suspension.
You missed a bit Jehna
Yeah i'm not inclined to believe this one. It sounds more like they're trying to prolonge the controversy to me. Henjak may have done some stupid things but he's no this stupid and I think part of him saw this coming. If he's too bitter to see things clearly i'd like to think his lawyer is giving him the right advice to shut up, move on, and get another job...
I know, I know. What's the world coming to?What
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