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Reg, I appreciate just how difficult it is to moderate a community site (I am a mod of one of the longest running Wikis in existence).
However my observation of the tone and tenor of discussion on GAGR recently is that the apologists like amirite and wamberal get away with innuendo and denigration, while those supporting the WA perspective get banned. In addition, people like Hugh are constantly saying "I don't know about that but ...." and off they go on an ignorant and uninformed rant.
So, with respect, I do believe the people complaining here have a genuine grievance.
Last edited by SteveWA; 10-11-17 at 10:39.
'I may be a Senator but I am not stupid'
https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne
Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca
https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board
http://www.2gb.com/podcast/alan-jone...november-10th/
Alan Jones talking about Rugby from 23mins. The ARU has over 140 staff that which doesn't include part time match officials, casuals, contractors, players, etc. There is a prospective booklet for CEO applicants.
'I may be a Senator but I am not stupid'
https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne
Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca
https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board
In GnGR’s defence, they allowed me to publish my piece on the ARU finances when the Roar refused to. Reg was instrumental in getting the information out there.
Proudly Western Australian; Proudly supporting Western Australian rugby
I see the Senate Inquiry thread has been moved from suggested threads on to the Rugby discussion on G & G.
'I may be a Senator but I am not stupid'
https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne
Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca
https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board
yep a little more visible now which is a positive step
GIGS20 is The Man
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The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous languor
It will warm up. People have come on stating that the Roar haven't covered the hearing
I am just reading de Clyne's testimony how's this for lies
Having read John's submission it was pretty clear that the Road Safety deal was confirmed for three yearsSenator REYNOLDS: Mr Clyne, didn't you actually say not so long ago—just now, in fact—that there was no guarantee from the Western Australian government? We understand there was the transport safety sponsorship, which was provided and guaranteed, and you've now just acknowledged the Western Australian government did put a bid in for extra financial support.
Mr Clyne : No, I said the sponsorship deal was not forward-contracted beyond one year.
Senator REYNOLDS: Sorry, forward contracted?
Mr Clyne : We didn't have a commitment beyond one year with regards to the sponsorship. However, we did say, 'Let's assume it will occur.' We actually gave the credit for that, and we also gave the credit that the Own the Force would be fully subscribed. On both those factors, even though they weren't actually contractible, we gave the credit to them in the WA bid and it was still inferior to Victoria.
Can't see de Clyne's answer to the question on notice on the Inquiry website.CHAIR: I've got a question on notice. Given the conflicting evidence we had about who led the negotiations, can you take on notice confirmation of who led the negotiations. Was it Mr Clarke or Mr Pulver?
Mr Clyne : The management team are responsible—it's not an individual in the organisation. Bill would delegate across a range of people. They've all got tasks to take. I'm happy to take the question but I don't quite understand what the issue is.
CHAIR: I think the best thing for us to do is to give you the Hansard record and you can see where the conflicts are and you can confirm with us what your understanding is of who led the negotiations.
Senator REYNOLDS: And was there a conflict of interest.
CHAIR: There are issues perhaps of conflict of interest, and was there a conflict of interest declared by Mr Clarke?
Mr Clyne : He is an employee of the ARU, so I don't believe he has a conflict of interest because he's acting in the best interests of the ARU. As to his past associations, the ARU is full of people, as are many franchises, who have worked in a whole range of different entities within rugby. When he is an employee of the ARU, he will act in the best interests of the ARU.
Senator REYNOLDS: Mr Clarke is on the public record as saying that the two purchasers were longstanding friends—again, there is the relationship with Mr Gray and the unit trust. I want to confirm that you've never heard about the unit trust before?
Mr Clyne : I haven't, no.
CHAIR: Thank you. Can you take that on notice, please. We have finished for today. Thank you very much to broadcasting, the secretariat and of course our witness.
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'I may be a Senator but I am not stupid'
https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne
Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca
https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board
And the ARU still tried their best to impede the Own the Force campaign. Pulver asked for it not to be released and then stifled membership by announcing that the Force was the one to go.
It kills me that nothing has been said about Pulver asking Howarth not to release the prospectus. Pulver obviously thought that this was going to be another hindrance in shutting us down.