Springboks plan Zulu haka

[Goldmember]

Do you agree that Wannenburg should have been sent off?

No

Back on topic now, do you think the Springbok wardance/haka/comic relief might involve them falling on the ground tired and maybe tying bootlaces, etc?

I think Percy would look quite fearsome as a Zulu Warrier. He can do mock drop kicks while practicing his best "Blue Steel" look.

[AndyS]

Did anyone else wonder if the ABs doing "Ka Mate" rather than the "Kapa o Pango" they did in the first test was a reflection of what they thought of the Boks team?

[JediKnight]

Maybe they couldn't remember the words!

[hopep]

This 'war dance' thing is a smoke screen. It has no credebility in terms of Springbok history and I think it is just a ploy to appeal to some of the darker elements of political correctness being foisted on SARU by political pundits.

I've seen Yarppie expats try and dance - It is NOT PRETTY

It happens a bit in GO rugby, but thats all there for a laugh and giggle really. Even the Irish Team has a 'reply dance' prepared.

Sounds like far too much altitude and not enough oxygen for Jake White

As for the AB's.
As long as there is a full blood moari to lead the chant - keep it in.
They have a histroy of doing it - its a tradition. For other countries it is only a gimmick and has sod all to do with rugby.

[Burgs]

On that Hopep, I was told by a Kiwi that the person chosen to lead the AB haka is meant to be the most senior Maori, ie closest to Royalty.
I'm not quite sure how Carl Hayman fits into the equation?
My understanding is that out of the extended squad Piri Weepu is the "highest blood" however, I haven't heard who would be after him if he isn't playing that week.

[hopep]

It'll probably sound racists, but when pakiha's do it - its just not the same.

I was in Wellington last year and local Moari group performed a Haka that had the hairs on my neck standing up - bloody scary. And that was their dance for "Welcome, come in and have a cup of tea" we nearly shit ourselves.

It got to stay a traditional thing and should ONLY be lead by Maoris.

If the South Africans want to start sending an "All Zulu" team on international tours - that might be different.
Thats an idea which would help SARU promote rugby into the black community.

[Dopedo182]

I saw this in the west this morning and couldnt help but laugh. I think its a bit of a marketing ploy by the SARU. Maybe they are trying to cash in on the all blacks/oceanic nations marketability by having a war dance. I dont think it will help them by any means maybe only by working up or amusing the opposition.

[JediKnight]

It'll probably sound racists, but when pakiha's do it - its just not the same.

I was in Wellington last year and local Moari group performed a Haka that had the hairs on my neck standing up - bloody scary. And that was their dance for "Welcome, come in and have a cup of tea" we nearly shit ourselves.

It got to stay a traditional thing and should ONLY be lead by Maoris.

If the South Africans want to start sending an "All Zulu" team on international tours - that might be different.
Thats an idea which would help SARU promote rugby into the black community.

I'm confused.....so it's ok for the All Black's to do a haka (as long as it's led by a Maori) and because it's tradition. But it's not ok for SA to start a tradition with their war dance (how does a tradition become a tradition?). If SA want to do a traditional Zulu dance, then as long as there's a Zulu (or Zulu descendant) to lead it, then it's no difference to the haka.

Maybe then the English can tie bells onto their ankles & set up a maypole on their 22 before dancing around it, hitting each other with sticks!!!

[The InnFORCEr]

There are a few here from before as well

http://thewholeforce.com/showthread....highlight=haka

[Burgs]

Maybe then the English can tie bells onto their ankles & set up a maypole on their 22 before dancing around it, hitting each other with sticks!!!

Don't they already

[jazza93]

i dont think it is a good idea if they make there own war dance before a game. it has to mean something to the players and i bet if you asked them what zulu is most wouldnt have a clue. when the all blacks do the huka they are dead serios and the players have been dreaming of doing the huka all there lives.

[The EnForcer]

A bit like the singing of The Flower Of Scotland to the pipes for the Scottish team. BTW I'm still smarting at the IRB or ARU (not sure who made the decision) stopping the Scots from having a pipe band on the field to play The Flower of Scotland during the 2003 RWC. They said it would give us unfair advantage against the US in the game in Brisbane. I didn't see the Haka getting stopped when NZ played any underdog teams....did you?

If it's a tradition then let it be but if it is just a gimmick, which the SA thing would be, then forget about it. It would be like the Welsh wearing a skirt because they thought it would give them a moral boost as it works for the Scots.

[Shaun]

Well firstly Jazza you can't even spell HAKA and secondly at the majority of schools (and yes even the top schools) students learn Zulu, so your stereotype in saying that the players don't know anything about Zulus is terribly incorrect.

[jazza93]

fine

anyway if these are what a zulu dance is then this is a joke lmao.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search

can anybody find a more accurate video on what the boks intend to do.

[tdevil]

What I don't understand is that SA want to do a Zulu haka, but up until 1998 SA still celebrated a day on 16 December, to celebrate the fact that 464 white boere killed 10 000 Zulus.
So much for a Zulu war dance considering the Zulus lost the war...