Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 46

Thread: A Quick Question about the TMO...

  1. #16
    (formerly known as Coach) Your Humble Servant Darren's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Perth, Western Australia, Australia
    Posts
    14,227
    vCash
    262778
    Quote Originally Posted by Jess
    Old Missus Cringle is a clever one
    Jess!

    I was sure she was your older sister...

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Dear Lord, if you give us back Johnny Cash, we'll give you Justin Bieber.

  2. #17
    Immortal Contributor shasta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Mandurah
    Posts
    15,726
    vCash
    5472000
    Quote Originally Posted by joblot
    This is unlike Rugby League, wher the TMO can go back several phases, even to the half way line and point out any infringements that the ref may have missed.
    There are still some mind boggling errors made by TMOs in both codes but the system works OK in most cases, I reckon. One area in RL that is suss is that the TMO can rule knock-ons but not forward passes. You see many cases where it's just about impossible to say the ball was knocked forward or back and yet a decision is given, rather than benefit of the doubt.

    Anyone think there could be a little scope for "benefit of the doubt" in RU, say for example when a maul is driven over, looks like the ball was probably grounded but no camera angle shows it? There were plenty of "judgement calls" on these before TMO was introduced.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  3. #18
    Veteran Sagerian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    3,139
    vCash
    5000000
    Of course the TMO can't rule a forward pass, he's not standing in line with the passer.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  4. #19
    (formerly known as Coach) Your Humble Servant Darren's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Perth, Western Australia, Australia
    Posts
    14,227
    vCash
    262778
    thats what he said

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Dear Lord, if you give us back Johnny Cash, we'll give you Justin Bieber.

  5. #20
    Immortal Contributor shasta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Mandurah
    Posts
    15,726
    vCash
    5472000
    Quote Originally Posted by Sagerian
    Of course the TMO can't rule a forward pass, he's not standing in line with the passer.
    Exactly, Sage. So it's inconsistent to allow the TMO to rule knock-ons too is what I'm saying. There should be stronger emphasis on benefit of the doubt in many cases.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  6. #21
    Veteran Sagerian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    3,139
    vCash
    5000000
    Mmmm *grumble grumble* but you can generally see a knock on. Agreed it should definitely be left alone on the close ones.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  7. #22
    Immortal Contributor shasta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Mandurah
    Posts
    15,726
    vCash
    5472000
    Quote Originally Posted by Sagerian
    Mmmm *grumble grumble* but you can generally see a knock on.
    And you can't generally see a forward pass??

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  8. #23
    Veteran Jess's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    4,223
    vCash
    5000000
    Quote Originally Posted by Coach
    Jess!

    I was sure she was your older sister...

    oh coach you know what i meant... meant she is the wife of Old Man Cringle.

    And my mum looks better than i do and i'm only 19.

    Happy to have her in the next block huh coach?

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  9. #24
    Legend Contributor
    Moderator
    Happy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    JB O'Reilly's
    Posts
    8,172
    vCash
    5000000
    we prefer to call them "extremly flat passes"

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoly card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game Uno.

  10. #25
    Veteran Sagerian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    3,139
    vCash
    5000000
    Quote Originally Posted by shasta
    And you can't generally see a forward pass??
    I can, yes. TMO's can't.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  11. #26
    Champion RuckNMaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Great Southern
    Posts
    1,747
    vCash
    5000000
    a knock on is easier to see than a forward pass

    we prefer to call them "extremly flat passes"
    they also call it line ball

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  12. #27
    Veteran Jess's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    4,223
    vCash
    5000000
    I've talked to Dad again and he reminded me what sparked the question in the first place which raises the problem we had in working it out.

    Mum asked the question following the ref asking the TMO 'Did number 4 ground the ball?'

    What if the ref had said the wrong number and a try had in fact been scored, but it was by a different number.

    Can the TMO only say yes or no or can they say that the ref got it wrong and it was say, number 14 who scored the try?

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  13. #28
    Legend
    Apprentice Bookie
    Contributor .X.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    6,697
    vCash
    -14797739
    I am trying to remember something that we discussed in the forums last year - but I can't find it.

    But - I am sure there was a change of rule last year that when calling for the TMO the Referee only asks one question: "Is there any reason why I can't award the try?"

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Exile
    Sydney


    "Pain heels. Chicks dig scars and Glory lasts forever." Shane Falco

  14. #29
    Veteran Sagerian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    3,139
    vCash
    5000000
    I still hear them ask for the TMO to check grounding or check to see if he's in touch. They still must check what they can, but I'm still pretty sure they just check it on that particular phase, I don't think they go back to check the whole run of play.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  15. #30
    Champion Contributor chook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    2,042
    vCash
    5000000
    Can you check to see that a player has checked where the ball has been grounded? I'm pretty sure if you don't check to see if the player has asked to check that the checking of the ball was completed, the referee then checks to see if he knows anyone called Bob.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Laura Force Addict v Chook scrabble-off on Facebook: laura & Force Addict 0 | chook 9


    Gigsa made me do it



    "He who conquers others is strong; he who conquers himself is mighty." – Lao Tzu

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Question for Coach (or a Ref)
    By hopep in forum Rugby Laws Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 31-07-07, 11:56
  2. Laws of Rugby - Law 19 - Touch and Lineout
    By Darren in forum The Laws of Rugby
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 30-07-07, 14:13
  3. Two quick steps to put Wallabies right
    By Burgs in forum Wallabies
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 11-05-07, 10:10
  4. tonights 3rd try!
    By slomo in forum Western Force
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 08-05-07, 20:57
  5. A question for Travelling_Gerry
    By Happy in forum Public Bar
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 24-07-06, 19:46

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •