Stadia Task Force Survey

[travelling_gerry]

It appears the Stadia Taskforce is asking for community opinion..


http://www.majorstadiataskforce.com....aspx?MenuID=27

[Darren]

Good find, Gerry!

Be sure to check out the submissions - interetsing figures in RUgbyWA submission!

http://www.majorstadiataskforce.com.....aspx?MenuID=7

[Egan]

Yes thanks heaps for that Gerry!

[travelling_gerry]

EXCELLENT Presentation by Rugby WA.................

[Woolfe]

Maybe Burke and Grill can lobby for the stadium?

[Burgs]

Just about sounds like a name of a pub!

[Happy]

done mine! cheers TG!

[The EnForcer]

I've been looking to see if there was a Task Force site but couldn't find one. Good work Gerry.

Rugby WA presentation is excellent! Subiaco council presentation is extremely average and they are really clutching at straws.

Interesting to see that the AFL dudes aren't prepared to publish their presentation...if you were a synical person you would read a lot into that. I actually think it is outrageous as they are asking for public money. They never fail to meet my expectations.

No presentation from Packer I see, that would be a good one to see I reckon. I guess we'll never get to see it though as they are not asking for public money.

I have just requested a copy of The Town Of Vincent presentation but the CEO is going to phone me back on that. It's public property, so in theory I should be able to get my hands on it.

Just realised that the Stadia Task Force is based in the Town of Vincent Council buildings.

[shasta]

I've been looking to see if there was a Task Force site but couldn't find one. Good work Gerry.

never fail to meet my expectations.

No presentation from Packer I see, that would be a good one to see I reckon. I guess we'll never get to see it though as they are not asking for public money.

Ditto & Ditto on the first two TEF

I have been wondering about the third. Wasn't sure if Packer was willing to foot the entire bill or what. A cynic might also look that particular gift horse well in the mouth.

[Burgs]

In terms of location, I think the most telling from Rugby WA's presentation is the map of "Where our Members Live".
The corridor of Members down the rail from Perth City to Mosman Park is pretty clear and the stats say that 59% are either Central Perth or Western Suburbs.
It certainly blows Cockburn out of the water as an option for Rugby anyway!

[Burgs]

Righto, now I've seen some actual forecast figures from RWA I'm even more stumped!

RWA state that in WA there is:

• 924,000 “Interested in Rugby” (or "Convertible")
• 137,000 would “Definitely attend Super 14 Rugby” ("Committed")
• 20,000 Members ("Core Supporters")
• That 99% of existing Members would renew or upgrade if given a rectangular venue.
• And that there track record at estimating public response is extremely poor (4k estimated, 20k actual).

Why on Earth are the selling us down the river saying their PREFERENCE is for a 35k stadium, they must be insane!
It might be a workable option and it might be what we will end up with but to state it as a preference is to again underestimate the codes potential and lock in an inferior option.
Yes it reads well, I am just really disappointed with RWA for going too low.

[Happy]

They (RugbyWA) are stuck between what we all want, a huge stadium to sit 60 thousand members and hold world events, and what we can get in the short term without loosing too many members who are sick of the delays, infighting and the prospect of getting something we don't really won't no closer than 2010.

That's my summary of the whole shit heap!

[Darren]

I think 35K is spot on for a dedicated rectangular stadium. Bigger than that and we'll have to settle for an oval with convertible seating, which will probably be an abomination.

35K Rectangular stadium + you beaut 60K+ major stadium which can be converted for the BIG rectangular games.

[The EnForcer]

Yes it reads well, I am just really disappointed with RWA for going too low.

I agree with you Burgs but at the end of the day if we get a 35k seater stadium then I will be over the moon. I'm sure these guys have done there sums and are experienced enough to shoot for the realistic target based on a financial model that they can honestly sell.

[AndyS]

In terms of location, I think the most telling from Rugby WA's presentation is the map of "Where our Members Live".
The corridor of Members down the rail from Perth City to Mosman Park is pretty clear and the stats say that 59% are either Central Perth or Western Suburbs...

Maybe they'd've been better doing a breakdown by marginal seats.

...That 99% of existing Members would renew or upgrade if given a rectangular venue...

Wonder how they might feel about downgrades though...

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Can't help but wonder if the message being sent is not the message being received. Statements like:
“We have surveyed our members and 59% of them overall – and 68% of the Gold category – expressed dissatisfaction with the seating at Subiaco Oval,”
“Our membership is down from 21,000 to 17,000 in just a year, and half of those who did not renew cited Subiaco Oval as the reason.”

may well sound to the government like:
"if we drag our feet for a while longer, MES will be adequate as it is without the expense of an upgrade"