Perth Bayswater Sevens

[Darren]

From the www.PerthRugby.com.au website:

Perth Bayswater Rugby Club will be hosting a Sevens Tournament for both Seniors and Colts levels on Saturday 17 February at Morley Reserve. Games will commence early on Saturday afternoon, prize money will be on offer for winners and no entry fee required. For further details contact Steve Wharerau 0400 776 590.

[rick boyd]

Does anyone have any information on the Bayswater sevens ?? Prize money ??
Word is the acdemy is entering a side in the sevens but the paly boys are playing for there club side instead !

Don't know about prize money but the trusty Perth-Bayswater web site (the best in WA, if not Australia, he said modestly) says

"Perth Bayswater Rugby Club will be hosting a Sevens Tournament for both Seniors and Colts levels on Saturday 17 February at Morley Reserve. Games will commence early on Saturday afternoon, prize money will be on offer for winners and no entry fee required. For further details contact Steve Wharerau 0400 776 590."

I'll have a word with the lads on the committee.

[fulvio sammut]

Perth's website was definitely one of the best in WA (in fact,one of the few in WA) when you opened it, Rick. Some of the features on it are still very good, probably because they haven't changed them since.
But that is the problem with Perth's site,and with Palmyra's,and indeed with all club sites. Very few members know how to administer or add to them, they are usually hopelessly out of date, and the information that is posted is usually meagre and insufficient.

Take the information Perth has posted for their 7's tournament (a brilliant idea at this time of the season by the way-no, I really mean it )-a few days out from it and there is no fixtures or commencement times, no participating team list and no mention of the amount of prize money offered.I know its not about the money,but the info should be there.

I find out more about what is going on in my club on TWF than I do from my club site (the information posted above by JamesBrown about the Pally Academy players is another case in point).

I don't know what the solution is. Maybe the ARU or RugbyWA should hold a webmasters course for club members to participate in, thereby increasing the number of people around each club capable of operating the sites.

As a site guru yourself Rick, any suggestions?.Anyone?

[rick boyd]

Perth's website was definitely one of the best in WA (in fact,one of the few in WA) when you opened it, Rick. Some of the features on it are still very good, probably because they haven't changed them since.
But that is the problem with Perth's site,and with Palmyra's,and indeed with all club sites. Very few members know how to administer or add to them, they are usually hopelessly out of date, and the information that is posted is usually meagre and insufficient.

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As a site guru yourself Rick, any suggestions?.Anyone?

The problem is not the technology but the usual blinding apathy of volunteers. You know how it is in the club -- you're pushing shit uphill to get them to do anything apart from play rugby and drink beer.

The ARU's rugbynet system uses a simple text-based back end that requires absolutely no web skills to operate, but can clubs organise the ten minutes a day to update their information? Not bloody likely. Clubs have no excuses for not using this excellent service.

The Perth web site is updated weekly during the season, I make sure of that, with match reports and results always kept current; but some of the other less urgent stuff doesn't get the same attention. I recently handed over some of the admin to an eager young assistant but even he can only put up the information supplied, and most club administrators already have too much to do without thinking about full and comprehensive details for the web site.

So most club web sites are just like clubs in general -- disorganised, run by amateurs on a shoestring budget, and with ten whingers for every worker who is actually prepared to get off their arse and do something constructive.

(Not you Frank, I know you've been in the thick of it at Paly since Gary Mickle played colts, and that was some time in the Old Testament.)

[frontrow]

No ones been around that long rick, dinosuars roamed the pitch back then...

[Burgs]

So most club web sites are just like clubs in general -- disorganised, run by amateurs on a shoestring budget, and with ten whingers for every worker who is actually prepared to get off their arse and do something constructive.

Well every Club in WA was invited last year to have a free Forum up and running under TWF and only a couple took us up. Perhaps we need to try again now there are more general TWF members from each Club?

[fulvio sammut]

Interesting concept. I could start an Unofficial Palmyra Rugby Club site on the Unofficial Western Force site.

Could we have a club members login, a login within a login, as it were?

I love these secure sites.

Could I ask for donations also (50%to Twf of course)?

Keep me posted,Burgs, I sense an opportunity.

[Burgs]

Would look kinda like this Fulv (and anyone else interested!) : http://thewholeforce.com/forumdispla...c&daysprune=-1
Best talk to Coach re technobabble though...I just spruik it

[fulvio sammut]

Burgs, if I did something like that I would risk Rick Boyd dumping on me all day everyday, not just occasionally.

but yeah, seriously, it's worth some thought. AT least some information would get posted.

[JamesBrown]

the firepower academy almost pulled out today as they only have 6 players .....bayswater is lending them 3 players so i wouldnt expect them to be up to the level they would want them to be at !! anyone know what other teams have been entered ??

[Burgs]

Any word on why JB?
I thought they had a squad of about 17 (less the two on Tour with the Force)?
Bulk injuries or what do you know?
Would be a shame if they can't use such events to fully develop the whole squad.

[JamesBrown]

quite afew injuries
cole - shoulder
darryn - shoulder
DB - groin
Longbottom - Groin
Dave - Groin
Sam - Groin
Curtis - Playing CLub
Nems's playing club
Scari n Brenda - Resting for Aus 19's trials
Chucky - Chest
so yeh afew injuries all minour but not worth risking

[Burgs]

7 out of 17 carrying minor injuries in the off season!
That's......unfortunate!

[RugbyFan]

geez theres a lot of groin pulling going on in the academy....

[Burgs]

The exuberance of youth!