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    Australia v Ireland

    2006 Spring Tour

    Match: Australia v Ireland

    Venue: Lansdowne Road, Dublin, Ireland

    Date: Sunday 19 November 2006 Kick Off: 4.00pm (3.00am Mon 20 November AEDST)

    Wallabies:
    1. Al Baxter,
    2. Brendan Cannon,
    3. Guy Shepherdson,
    4. Nathan Sharpe,
    5. Mark Chisholm,
    6. Rocky Elsom,
    7. Phil Waugh (vc),
    8. Wycliff Palu,
    9. Matt Giteau,
    10. Stephen Larkham (vc),
    11. Mark Gerrard,
    12. Stirling Mortlock (c),
    13. Lote Tuqiri,
    14. Clyde Rathbone,
    15. Chris Latham (vc)
    16. Tai McIsaac,
    17. Benn Robinson,
    18. Al Campbell,
    19. George Smith,
    20. Josh Valentine,
    21. Mat Rogers,
    22. Scott Staniforth

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    Ireland Team to Play Australia

    Ireland Coach Eddie O’Sullivan has made four changes to the Ireland team to play Australia in the Guinness Autumn series from the starting side which beat South Africa 32-15 last weekend.

    In the back division, Denis Hickie comes into the left wing in place of Andrew Trimble, who has been ruled out due to a hamstring injury. Geordan Murphy swaps positions with Girvan Dempsey and starts at full back, with Dempsey reverting to the replacements. Isaac Boss earns his first start for Ireland at scrum half with Peter Stinger named as cover.

    There is one change to the forwards, with Bryan Young coming into the team for his first start for Ireland in place of Marcus Horan. Another milestone in the Ireland selection is that Shane Horgan will be winning his 50th cap for Ireland when he takes the field on the right wing. The team will be captained by Brian O’Driscoll for the 32nd time.

    The Ireland team to play Australia in the Guinness Autumn Series in Lansdowne Road on Sunday 19th November 2006 at 16.00hrs is as follows:

    Player Club Caps
    1 - Bryan Young Ballymena/Ulster 3
    2 - Rory Best Belfast Harlequins/Ulster 5
    3 - John Hayes Bruff/Munster 66
    4 - Donncha O’Callaghan Cork Constitution/Munster 28
    5 - Paul O'Connell Young Munster/Munster 37
    6 - Neil Best Belfast Harlequins/Ulster 6
    7 - David Wallace Garryowen/Munster 31
    8 - Denis Leamy Cork Constitution/Munster 15

    9 - Isaac Boss Ballymena/Ulster 3
    10 - Ronan O’Gara Cork Constitution/Munster 64
    11 - Denis Hickie St.Mary’s College/Leinster 51
    12 - Gordon D’Arcy Lansdowne/Leinster 24
    13 - Brian O’Driscoll (Captain) Blackrock College/Leinster 68
    14 - Shane Horgan Lansdowne/Leinster 49
    15 - Geordan Murphy Leicester 43


    Replacements:
    16 – Frakie Sheahan Cork Constitution/Munster 25
    17 – Marcus Horan Shannon/Munster 41
    18 – Malcolm O’Kelly St.Mary’s College/Leinster 81
    19 – Simon Easterby Llaneli 50
    20 – Peter Stringer Shannon/Munster 70
    21 – Paddy Wallace Ballymena/Ulster 1
    22 – Girvan Dempsey Terenure College/Leinster 67

    Not Considered due to injury:
    Andrew Trimble {Hamstring}

    Thanks "TheQueerOne" for passing this on

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    So what does our Cam need to do to cement his place in the Wallabies team....score 2 tries in a faultless performance on the wing against Wales, score 1 try from full-back for the A side......anyone else think that Connolly puts all the names in a hat & draws them at random to determine his backline?!

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    What the hell does Baxter have to do to get his arse dropped??????
    He is a disgrace to forwards in general and is the butt of opposition sledging.

    Starting to get sick of Rathbones' hold on #14 too, why does he stay when everyone else gets moved everywhere? Bring on the performing junior of the Tour in Shepherd!

    JK, personally I think Knuckles more favours the dartboard method
    He may be on the verge of a massive inspirational breakthrough which will prove why he's an International Coach and I make steaks but honestly, he has me scratching my noggin at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediKnight
    So what does our Cam need to do to cement his place in the Wallabies team....score 2 tries in a faultless performance on the wing against Wales, score 1 try from full-back for the A side......anyone else think that Connolly puts all the names in a hat & draws them at random to determine his backline?!
    Yes, I said something similar. I really do think he pulls names out of a hat for the backline.

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    I swear, if Clyde Rathbone doesn't do something useful in this match and Al Baxter doesn't completely screw up, John Connolly loses any and all of my respect forever.

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    From RUGBYeNEWS

    WALLABIES MIDFIELD CONFUSION

    All Black World Cup-winning flyhalf Grant Fox believes the Wallaby selectors are barking up the wrong tree by trying transplanted outside backs in the crucial No 10 position.

    Fox told RugbyEnews that as an observer he was "a little bit bemused by the chopping and changing in the backline when it is more obvious the (real) problems are up front."

    Former winger Mark Gerrard has been thrown a lifeline in the unfamiliar pivot position for Australia A this week after a disastrous debut in the loss to Ospreys and Mat Rogers has publicly pleaded for another chance in the test against Ireland on Monday. Both transplanted No 10s have struggled with the technical skills expected of the position.

    Fox believes that Rogers' background as an outstanding wing/fullback in rugby league doesn't mean he has the skills to play rugby's most skill-intensive position: "Mat Rogers is a very talented rugby player, but it's one thing to have talent and it's another thing to run the show from No 10," Fox says.

    "In Stephen Larkham you've got a world class player, but with what's been happening in front of him I think he's had a bit of a tougher ride than he's had previously. But form is temporary, class is permanent and he's got class."

    Fox also questions whether Larkham has a long term future at No 12: "Second five (inside centre) is a hugely confrontational position. You could argue that there's more physicality required at 12 than at 10 and Larkham is a bit injury prone  he's a very courageous man and he puts himself in traffic all the time.

    "Is he big enough to deal with the crash and bash both with, and without, the ball in that position? I don't think that best makes use of his talent."

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    It has taken knuckles so long to get the reins of the Wallabies, and it seems he was on the right track early on, but now his decisions regarding selections will be his death knell come failure in RWC, possibly sooner...Surely we are not the only people supporting the Wallabies who can see the flaws with his selection policies, i`m sure similar conversations are going on on the Tahs website (maybe not as critical of baxter, but negative never the less).
    The Kiwis are pissing themselves laughing at our repeated selection of half assed bastards in prime roles, yes you Baxter, and so is every other serious rugby playing nation....Stop the hemmoraging now, and repair the damage now, we can`t rely on the kiwis choking again, they are currently in a league of thier own, with daylight (plenty of it) second....We are the only international team to seriously challenge them this year, (and at home), which means we do have ability...we need to regroup NOW

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    2006 Spring Tour

    Match: Australia v Ireland

    Venue: Lansdowne Road, Dublin, Ireland

    Date: Sunday 19 November 2006 Kick Off: 4.00pm (3.00am Mon 20 November AEDST)

    Wallabies:

    1. Al Baxter,
    2. Tai McIsaac,
    3. Guy Shepherdson,
    4. Nathan Sharpe,
    5. Mark Chisholm,
    6. Rocky Elsom,
    7. Phil Waugh (vc),
    8. Wycliff Palu,
    9. Matt Giteau,
    10. Stephen Larkham (vc),
    11. Mark Gerrard,
    12. Stirling Mortlock (c),
    13. Lote Tuqiri,
    14. Clyde Rathbone,
    15. Chris Latham (vc)
    16. Stephen Moore,
    17. Benn Robinson,
    18. Al Campbell,
    19. George Smith,
    20. Josh Valentine,
    21. Mat Rogers,
    22. Scott Staniforth

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    Did you see the Aussie with the Western Force beanie when we kicked the first penalty?

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    Well that was outright pathetic Rugby for a team that was poised to rise to second in the World.
    Full marks to a very clever match from Ireland however, they were hardly challenged mentally or physically.
    Some encouraging signs for the Wallabies in some of the defensive work and "mysteriously" while Baxter was off the front row held their own.
    It would appear that "Blind Freddy" may be required onto the selection panel as the obvious just doesn't seem to be sinking in for the current bunch.
    Firstly, with the loosehead, absolute joke until Benn Robinson came on for immediate impact in the loose and immediate correction in the scrum.
    Secondly, in the most atrocious weather Australia would have played in for at least a decade, the one "European experienced" player we have on tour, who happens to have been regarded the form Inside Centre of the Super 14, was left on the bench until the horse had bolted, while a World class #13 who has never played #12 and a World class Winger who cannot play #13 wasted any opportunity that we did gain.
    Thirdly, somebody needs to be sitting in the stands with a snipers rifle to blow the foot off Rogers if he ever tries his stupid little dink chip kick and chase again. From tonight I am even more convinced he is not an inside back and is a borderline Test Bench player at best. And he certainly doesn’t have the temperament or discipline to be a Test player.
    There is so much wrong about this match by the Wallabies that I would be here until morning ranting, so instead, here is who I would select to play against Scotland "A" and Scotland assuming all available:

    Australia "A" for Scotland "A"

    1. Nic Henderson
    2. Stephen Moore
    3. Rodney Blake
    4. Al Campbell
    5. Mark Chisholm
    6. Stephen Hoiles
    7. Scott Fava
    8. Wycliff Palu
    9. Josh Valentine
    10. Matt Giteau
    11. Mat Rogers
    12. Scott Staniforth
    13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
    14. Drew Mitchell
    15. Cameron Shepherd
    16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    17. Benn Robinson
    18. Mitchell Chapman
    19. George Smith
    20. Brett Sheehan
    21. Morgan Turinui
    22. Clyde Rathbone


    Wallabies for Scotland

    1. Benn Robinson
    2. Tai McIsaac
    3. Guy Shepherdson
    4. Nathan Sharpe
    5. James Horwill
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. Phil Waugh (vc)
    8. David Lyons
    9. Matt Giteau
    10. Stephen Larkham (vc)
    11. Mark Gerrard
    12. Scott Staniforth
    13. Stirling Mortlock (c)
    14. Lote Tuqiri
    15. Chris Latham (vc)
    16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    17. Nic Henderson
    18. Al Campbell
    19. George Smith
    20. Brett Sheehan
    21. Adam Ashley-Cooper
    22. Cameron Shepherd

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    I am finding it so hard not to gloat on this one but as I see you guys are beating yourselves up about the poor Aussie performance I will sit back and enjoy

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    The only thing I'll say bad about the Irish performance is that I don't believe either try was legit, if they went upstairs they wouldn't have awarded either... There I said it.


    Ireland played the Wallabies off the park, they had nothing. The only highlight ironically was the scrum for a 20 minute period*, turning the Irish against the head on at least one occasion.



    *The period where Al Baxter was off


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    Great post Burgs, hard to argue with any of that

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