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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakkies View Post
    Which psycho? She has de Clyne as her Chairman.
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    Correct.
    Shame Alan Jones is not back on deck tomorrow.

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    https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne

    Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca

    https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board

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    I can’t believe how North hasn’t been disbarred after all that’s come out on his behaviour & involvement in this. Why has he not been investigated by the Australian Legal Board? Any of you lawyers out there know how to file complaints-is it possible or does he just continue on his merry way?

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    So does this mean Tim North was in contempt of the Senate inquiry for not revealing his involvement in this transaction?

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    Doesn't he have to be reported first?

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    https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne

    Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca

    https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    I can’t believe how North hasn’t been disbarred after all that’s come out on his behaviour & involvement in this. Why has he not been investigated by the Australian Legal Board? Any of you lawyers out there know how to file complaints-is it possible or does he just continue on his merry way?
    http://www.lsbc.vic.gov.au/documents...-July-2016.pdf

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    Thanks JSJ, will take me some time to get all that info filled out, maybe should just send them the Senate Inquiry transcript!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Thanks JSJ, will take me some time to get all that info filled out, maybe should just send them the Senate Inquiry transcript!
    Hopefully ASIC will do the their job and save you the trouble. The evidence is mounting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valzc View Post
    Thanks JSJ, will take me some time to get all that info filled out, maybe should just send them the Senate Inquiry transcript!
    You would have to send them that as the form is more related to lawyers who have misrepresented you.

    He pointed out the Imperium Unit Trusts and he said he didn't hold a Unit. If it turns out that he has a Unit that's a straight up lie. That's before you get started on the dodgy deals he signed off on.

    The Victorian Auditor General is another place you can report the Government for signing off a deal that is under investigation.

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    https://omny.fm/shows/the-alan-jones-breakfast-show/cameron-clyne

    Link to Senate Report http://www.aph.gov.au/senate_ca

    https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board

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    Many things without precedent have happened in Australian rugby over the past 12 months, but arguably none is more transformative than the appointment of Raelene Castle to the role of chief executive officer of Rugby Australia. And today is her first on the job.

    In one blow, a woman, a Kiwi and a lifelong rugby league supporter has been thrust into the most senior paid role in the game. Although there have in recent times been three women on the RA board — Liz Broderick has recently resigned to take up a key role at the United Nations — it is understood Castle will become the first female member of the World Rugby Council. Given that at least half a dozen of her fellow council members are former internationals, including Australia’s other representative, Brett Robinson, it’s a fair bet she will be on a steep and challenging learning curve.

    Being a Kiwi, the daughter of a former NZ rugby league captain, and someone who has just come from a senior NRL post might actually be a boon to her. Rugby Australia has much to learn from the NZ rugby system and, indeed, much from the NRL as well, so her familiarity with both will be no load to carry.

    So for all the media’s fixation with her gender, nationality and sporting allegiances, it may well be that Castle will come to be judged on other terms entirely — on her strength of character and her ability to keep a calm head in a crisis. Rugby certainly is a game that will test them both.

    It will be intriguing to see how she prioritises her time. There will of course be urgent stuff, the crises that need to be dealt with immediately. Karmichael Hunt’s drug problems would surely fall into this category. But there will also be important stuff that is not time critical. And healing the wounds of Australian rugby would be at the top of the list.

    In its long history, Australian rugby has never done anything quite as divisive as dropping the Western Force. No doubt, her new colleagues on the RA board would not see it that way. They would see it that the game was in dire strife, not just financially but in terms of its competitive edge, especially against her native New Zealand. And so it went through the process of determining which team should drop out of Super Rugby and eventually arrived at the Force. That, at least, is how the board sees it.

    Pretty much the rest of Australia views it somewhat differently. The ARU, as it then was, determined very early in the process — precisely how early is also a matter of great contention — that the Force were the most vulnerable, although for appearance’s sake and to keep alive another option, the RA board also pursued the Melbourne Rebels in the hope that their owner might be persuaded to sell it the club’s Super Rugby licence. Fat chance of that, not if Andrew Cox ever hoped to do business again in Melbourne, and in the end, the process played out precisely as predicted — with the Force being culled.

    It was as cruel an action as Rugby Australia has ever perpetrated and there may yet be more to come in the wash-up if Nick Taylor’s persistent investigation in the Perth Sunday Times shows the Australian Securities and Investments Commission is on to something in terms of asking for more information. But for the people of Perth who are still grieving for their team, a trip by Castle to the West would be timely and appropriate.

    She doesn’t have to say sorry. She never did anything that requires an apology. But she does need to reassure the people of Perth that she will do everything in her power to lighten the blow and keep WA rugby active and ready for a possible return once the current broadcast deal expires at the end of 2020. Yes, it would be a symbolic gesture, but certainly not an empty one.

    Oh, and while she’s there, she should pop in and visit Andrew Forrest. Anyone prepared to pump millions into Australian rugby in the current climate deserves to be feted and to have his minor quirks indulged.

    There is, as well, a desperate need to reconnect grassroots rugby volunteers and followers with Rugby Australia. Never has there been such a chasm as the one that exists at present, with so many Australians washing their hands of the national body and simply getting stuck in and doing it themselves. It’s the reason why the club competitions in Sydney and Brisbane are so strong, but it is also the reason Australian rugby remains so fragmented.

    Castle, hopefully, will address Australia’s waning influence internationally. There is only one way to speak with authority at World Rugby level, and that is by having a successful international side. It’s why NZ now rules the roost.

    During the period when Australia was the only nation to have won the World Cup twice, its influence was profound and global. These days it’s sitting about where you’d expect it to be, with the Wallabies fourth in the rankings, with their next three Tests against an Irish side that’s ranked third and seeking to nudge even higher.

    How she relates to Michael Cheika will largely determine how successful she is.

    Internationally, she must strive to bring the Rugby World Cup back to Australia — which is the only sure-fire way of raising money. The only way to do this is the way John Coates won the 2000 Olympics — contacts, contacts, contacts.

    Indeed, hers will be a job that is as much a test of her personality and persuasiveness as it is of knowledge and how and when to apply it.

    Rugby is hurting badly at the moment and it is not stretching the case to suggest that the only things stopping Queensland rugby from toppling into the abyss is a sense of desperation and a particularly strong set of fingernails.

    There is a widespread sentiment that Rugby Australia is making decisions solely to benefit itself financially, which is another indication of how perilous the situation has become.

    If rugby is just a business, it might be time to look about for a buyer to break it up and sell it off piecemeal.

    But, of course, it is far more than merely a business. It is, as well, a labour of love. For too long, Rugby Australia has touched only the purse strings. Before it is too late, it needs a leader who also will reconnect the heartstrings.

    So, welcome, Raelene. Give ’em hell.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...159098c1034aef

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    Doing “everything in her power” isn’t going to amount to much insofar as WA is concerned as Clyne holds all the power, not her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Doing “everything in her power” isn’t going to amount to much insofar as WA is concerned as Clyne holds all the power, not her.
    And, right there, is exactly the problem with Wayne's suggestion.

    I get it, he's trying to heal some of the wounds, but he hasn't accurately gotten the grasp of sentiment over here.

    Very few people in WA will take anything Castle says with any more than a grain of salt unless Cameron Clyne gone (I was going to write unless Cameron Clyne is backing her up, but I then thought I wouldn't trust it if he signed a legally binding contract to deliver specific outcomes under threat of massive financial loss and jail time. I still think he'd lie)

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    Photo shop Cameron Clyne's face onto Mr Burns and you've probably got an accurate transcript of how Castle was hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travelling_gerry View Post
    WAYNE SMITH
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    Many things without precedent have happened in Australian rugby over the past 12 months, but arguably none is more transformative than the appointment of Raelene Castle to the role of chief executive officer of Rugby Australia. And today is her first on the job.

    In one blow, a woman, a Kiwi and a lifelong rugby league supporter has been thrust into the most senior paid role in the game. Although there have in recent times been three women on the RA board — Liz Broderick has recently resigned to take up a key role at the United Nations — it is understood Castle will become the first female member of the World Rugby Council. Given that at least half a dozen of her fellow council members are former internationals, including Australia’s other representative, Brett Robinson, it’s a fair bet she will be on a steep and challenging learning curve.

    Being a Kiwi, the daughter of a former NZ rugby league captain, and someone who has just come from a senior NRL post might actually be a boon to her. Rugby Australia has much to learn from the NZ rugby system and, indeed, much from the NRL as well, so her familiarity with both will be no load to carry.

    So for all the media’s fixation with her gender, nationality and sporting allegiances, it may well be that Castle will come to be judged on other terms entirely — on her strength of character and her ability to keep a calm head in a crisis. Rugby certainly is a game that will test them both.

    It will be intriguing to see how she prioritises her time. There will of course be urgent stuff, the crises that need to be dealt with immediately. Karmichael Hunt’s drug problems would surely fall into this category. But there will also be important stuff that is not time critical. And healing the wounds of Australian rugby would be at the top of the list.

    In its long history, Australian rugby has never done anything quite as divisive as dropping the Western Force. No doubt, her new colleagues on the RA board would not see it that way. They would see it that the game was in dire strife, not just financially but in terms of its competitive edge, especially against her native New Zealand. And so it went through the process of determining which team should drop out of Super Rugby and eventually arrived at the Force. That, at least, is how the board sees it.

    Pretty much the rest of Australia views it somewhat differently. The ARU, as it then was, determined very early in the process — precisely how early is also a matter of great contention — that the Force were the most vulnerable, although for appearance’s sake and to keep alive another option, the RA board also pursued the Melbourne Rebels in the hope that their owner might be persuaded to sell it the club’s Super Rugby licence. Fat chance of that, not if Andrew Cox ever hoped to do business again in Melbourne, and in the end, the process played out precisely as predicted — with the Force being culled.

    It was as cruel an action as Rugby Australia has ever perpetrated and there may yet be more to come in the wash-up if Nick Taylor’s persistent investigation in the Perth Sunday Times shows the Australian Securities and Investments Commission is on to something in terms of asking for more information. But for the people of Perth who are still grieving for their team, a trip by Castle to the West would be timely and appropriate.

    She doesn’t have to say sorry. She never did anything that requires an apology. But she does need to reassure the people of Perth that she will do everything in her power to lighten the blow and keep WA rugby active and ready for a possible return once the current broadcast deal expires at the end of 2020. Yes, it would be a symbolic gesture, but certainly not an empty one.

    Oh, and while she’s there, she should pop in and visit Andrew Forrest. Anyone prepared to pump millions into Australian rugby in the current climate deserves to be feted and to have his minor quirks indulged.

    There is, as well, a desperate need to reconnect grassroots rugby volunteers and followers with Rugby Australia. Never has there been such a chasm as the one that exists at present, with so many Australians washing their hands of the national body and simply getting stuck in and doing it themselves. It’s the reason why the club competitions in Sydney and Brisbane are so strong, but it is also the reason Australian rugby remains so fragmented.

    Castle, hopefully, will address Australia’s waning influence internationally. There is only one way to speak with authority at World Rugby level, and that is by having a successful international side. It’s why NZ now rules the roost.

    During the period when Australia was the only nation to have won the World Cup twice, its influence was profound and global. These days it’s sitting about where you’d expect it to be, with the Wallabies fourth in the rankings, with their next three Tests against an Irish side that’s ranked third and seeking to nudge even higher.

    How she relates to Michael Cheika will largely determine how successful she is.

    Internationally, she must strive to bring the Rugby World Cup back to Australia — which is the only sure-fire way of raising money. The only way to do this is the way John Coates won the 2000 Olympics — contacts, contacts, contacts.

    Indeed, hers will be a job that is as much a test of her personality and persuasiveness as it is of knowledge and how and when to apply it.

    Rugby is hurting badly at the moment and it is not stretching the case to suggest that the only things stopping Queensland rugby from toppling into the abyss is a sense of desperation and a particularly strong set of fingernails.

    There is a widespread sentiment that Rugby Australia is making decisions solely to benefit itself financially, which is another indication of how perilous the situation has become.

    If rugby is just a business, it might be time to look about for a buyer to break it up and sell it off piecemeal.

    But, of course, it is far more than merely a business. It is, as well, a labour of love. For too long, Rugby Australia has touched only the purse strings. Before it is too late, it needs a leader who also will reconnect the heartstrings.

    So, welcome, Raelene. Give ’em hell.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...159098c1034aef
    He never mentions much about the ASIC investigation!!

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