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    Quote Originally Posted by JSJ View Post

    I am trying to be positive and follow the IPRC story and believe that WA will be even more of a powerhouse of Australian rugby in future years.
    left out the word rugby

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewM View Post
    I can't recall if anyone posted this one before?

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/un...07-gyd4yo.html

    INTERVIEW WITH MR ANDREW FORREST:

    CHAIRMAN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE AND FIRST FIVE-EIGHTH,
    ANACONDA INDO-PACIFIC PREMIER RUGBY LEAGUE.

    (Apologies to Clarke and Dawe)
    Andrew Forrest: One fair dinkum Australian having a go.
    Andrew Forrest: One fair dinkum Australian having a go. Photo: Stuart Walmsley/RUGBY.com.au
    Q. Thank you for your time, Mr Forrest.

    A. May I interrupt? I thank you for your time. It's worth more than mine.

    Q. I'm not too sure about that.

    A. Are you going to argue already?

    Q. Um no. The Indo-Pacific Premier Rugby League. What's it going to look like?

    A. Without saying too much at this stage, it's going to look big. Very big. As big, relative to Australian rugby, as Western Australia is to Australia. Massive and deeply powerful.

    Q. Who's going to play in it?

    A. Everyone from the Indo-Pacific region. Have you seen how hungry they are for our iron ore? And how many of them there are running around? They are as hungry for rugby as they are for minerals. Iron ore equals progress equals rugby.

    Q. Yes, but who's going to play in it?

    A. Deeply powerful rugby players.

    Q. What exactly is the Indo-Pacific region? And when I looked at my atlas, the bit between the Indo and the Pacific – isn't that Australia?

    A. You're looking at it the wrong way.

    Q. What's the right way?

    A. First you must ask: Where is Perth? What is Perth in the middle of?

    Q. Nowhere?

    A. The genius of the concept of the Indo-Pacific is that Perth is equidistant from everywhere in it. Perth to Johannesburg, Perth to Beijing, Perth to Buenos Aires – it's all pretty much the same. Have you realised that you can't travel from, say, Los Angeles to the Australian Antarctic region without transiting through Perth? It's physically impossible. We are at the hub of so many things and this deeply powerful competition will comprise everywhere on both the Indian and Pacific Oceans, from South Africa to North America, with Western Australia at its indispensable epicentre.

    Q. Specifically, though: if you don't have the SANZAAR teams, who will be playing in your competition?

    A. Forgive me for saying this, but you're thinking too small. A mere $50 million rugby competition is only the start. Think of all those goal posts we're going to be building. Think of the doors to the training sheds. Think of padlocks. Think of whistles. I know, when you think rugby, it's hard not to think of whistles. And what do you think they're all made of?

    Q. Iron? Steel?

    A. A chain of steel whistles linking one end of the Indo-Pacific to the other.

    Q. Mr Forrest. Many on the east coast sympathise with you in opposing the axing of the Western Force. There is a groundswell of support for the Force in the east. Along with ignoring the inherent strengths of Western Australian rugby, which are being left to wither and die, the decision seems to have been driven by the Australian Rugby Union saving itself from the embarrassment that would have come from shutting down the Melbourne Rebels a couple of years after creating them. People are, in principle, on your side.

    A. Now you're getting it.

    Q. Don't you risk alienating all of those supporters by breaking away and starting your own competition and presumably trying to poach all their players?

    A. Where did you say these supporters are based?

    Q. East.

    A. Enough said.

    Q. The criticism underlying the decision to axe an Australian team, whether it was the Force or the Rebels or the Brumbies, and the criticism underlying much of what ails Australian rugby, is that too many non-rugby people have pulled the levers at the highest levels.

    A. That's right. The Super League was flawed ever since it expanded to include non-rugby nations, driven by non-rugby financial motives.

    Q. Super Rugby.

    A. Call it what you like.

    Q. Super Rugby expanded to include countries such as Argentina and Japan, which placed too much of a squeeze on the five Australian teams.
    A. Yes. I mean, who plays rugby in Argentina and Japan? Argentina's not even in the Indo-Pacific.

    Q. So specifically, which Indo-Pacific countries are you looking to for teams?
    A. Nations with iron in their soul and in their ports. China, India. Have you seen the work Anaconda is doing there? Let me get someone to send you our annual reports.

    Q. Are there rugby players in China and India?
    A. On the ports, let me tell you, I've seen some deeply powerful chaps who are built like ruckmen and full-forwards, not to mention some nippy little rover types.

    Q. Mr Forrest?
    A. Yes?

    Q. Oh, don't worry. Now, Mr Forrest, hard question. How many Western Force games did you go to this year?
    A. Ah, I'll get my people to look into that and we'll get back to you.

    Q. Last year? Ever?
    A. Likewise.

    Q. And where were you in the early stages of the Force's challenge to survive, when the decision to axe them was first flagged, a year ago?
    A. I was probably in the Indo-Pacific, making Western Australia great again.

    Q. Last question. Ross Gittins wrote in the Herald the other day, 'More than three decades of neoliberal ideology have left business people convinced they're demi-gods, the source of all goodness and justly entitled to our approbation and genuflection'. Your thoughts?
    A. Couldn't have put it better myself. Cameron Clyne should have stayed with running a bank.

    Q. Anything else you'd like to say?
    A. I just wonder at your tone. I mean, I am a generous man, I have been generous in many areas of Australian life, and I am stepping forward to show my generosity. I'm just one fair dinkum Australian having a go. Your tone implies that you don't appreciate that.

    Q. Is that what it's all about, Mr Forrest? You showing what a nice Australian you are, so we remember to appreciate you?
    A. You tell me. Is it?

    Q. Perhaps you could tell me. Is it?
    A. Is it?
    Q. Is it?
    A. Is it?

    (Hard stares are exchanged until Anaconda public affairs staff end the interview.)
    Hold on.. what is this? It is obviously not real and I couldn't read any admission it was satire or something. The interview reads like amateurish rabble, it lies and paints Andrew Forrest in a negative light. What the fuck

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    Me thinks a bunch of candidates vying for Pulver's spot may be wondering if he's going to leave them with a massive problem.
    They have a massive problem anyway with the Chairman in situ. He is basically doing the CEO's job and running the joint badly.

    Whoever takes over in what governing body in place next year is going in to the Sanzaar negotiations around Easter time blindsided. The whole Sanzaar charade needs to be wound up.

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    Spartan, drivel that was written in the SMH.

    You can't compare the IPRC to Super League. Super League had desires to prop up expansion countries that have little grassroots. They are still doing it with the expansion to Toronto and possibly NYC. Rugby has the grassroots in these countries that the IPRC is looking at as that is required to get test status. They are also talking to Governments as a way of doing business.

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    https://www.change.org/p/rugby-australia-petition-for-cameron-clyne-to-resign-as-chairman-of-the-rugby-australia-board

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPaRTAN View Post
    Hold on.. what is this? It is obviously not real and I couldn't read any admission it was satire or something. The interview reads like amateurish rabble
    Spot-on. I saw this when it came out and the main thing that struck me was and is - IT ISN'T FUNNY. Good satire is hilarious. Even - or maybe particularly - when you are the butt of it. No wonder Malcolm Knob apologised to Clarke and Dawe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakkies View Post

    You can't compare the IPRC to Super League.
    To be fair, I don't think he was. It was a subtle dig at Andrew's choice of words in the early stages of this idea.

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    Twiggy has more money undoubtedly, but people need to question what his liquid assets are, and how much of them he's willing to spend.

    Throughout his commitment to rugby, Twiggy has thrown around a lot of time, effort, and numbers, but not too much actual cash.
    I saw this ignorant post on G & G from a poster who specialises in ignorant posts. It is astounding that people still believe the ARU and SMH spin that Twiggy hasn't put much actual cash in to the Force despite having this explained to them countless times.

    The Future Force wouldn't have happened without Twiggy as the ARU pulled the rug out of the academies. The Brumbies are only restarting the Brumbies Academy next year.

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    How much is he willing to spend? Well he’s on record as saying he’s going to spend all of his $5-6billion personal fortune in his lifetime! Not sure any east coasters have said same?!

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    Twiggy has more money undoubtedly, but people need to question what his liquid assets are, and how much of them he's willing to spend.

    Throughout his commitment to rugby, Twiggy has thrown around a lot of time, effort, and numbers, but not too much actual cash.


    Twiggy has committed $200 million to this. He is already spending big doing the groundwork to get this thing up and running. Are people in the Eastern Australian region really that retarded they post crap like that?

    Liquid assets? $6.5 billion in working capital on yearly earnings of $500 million. He explained all of this explicitly at his presentation to the ARU and the ARUs paid media lackeys.

    How much is he willing to spend? He plans on giving away to philanthropy almost all of that $6.5 billion.

    You lemmings over East who still can't understand or refuse to understand what sort of operator Twiggy is, better start to get a clue. He is of his word, he is not a Rinehart or a Packer, he is not a hoarder of wealth, he is about community building and a fair go. He took on Rio Tinto and BHP and carved out a nice little earner for himself and the people he employs, the ARU is small fry to him, but as ive stated, he is about community building therefore is trying to engage with the ARU to benefit all Australian Rugby even though he has zero reason to and zero obligation to. He could pull the parochiol card and cut the East off completely, but instead wants to see Australia benefit through World Cup success with WA a key contributor. Doubt him at your own peril.

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    The News Ltd sites have also gone the negative spin – not reporting the ARU giving consideration to selecting “Force” players for the Wallabies and just saying the timing will likely rule it out. I hope they end up with egg on their faces (not that they'd give a f***).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPaRTAN View Post
    Hold on.. what is this? It is obviously not real and I couldn't read any admission it was satire or something. The interview reads like amateurish rabble, it lies and paints Andrew Forrest in a negative light. What the fuck
    Yeah, a parody, just not a very good one I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalahard View Post
    Twiggy has more money undoubtedly, but people need to question what his liquid assets are, and how much of them he's willing to spend.

    Throughout his commitment to rugby, Twiggy has thrown around a lot of time, effort, and numbers, but not too much actual cash.


    Twiggy has committed $200 million to this. He is already spending big doing the groundwork to get this thing up and running. Are people in the Eastern Australian region really that retarded they post crap like that?

    Liquid assets? $6.5 billion in working capital on yearly earnings of $500 million. He explained all of this explicitly at his presentation to the ARU and the ARUs paid media lackeys.

    How much is he willing to spend? He plans on giving away to philanthropy almost all of that $6.5 billion.

    You lemmings over East who still can't understand or refuse to understand what sort of operator Twiggy is, better start to get a clue. He is of his word, he is not a Rinehart or a Packer, he is not a hoarder of wealth, he is about community building and a fair go. He took on Rio Tinto and BHP and carved out a nice little earner for himself and the people he employs, the ARU is small fry to him, but as ive stated, he is about community building therefore is trying to engage with the ARU to benefit all Australian Rugby even though he has zero reason to and zero obligation to. He could pull the parochiol card and cut the East off completely, but instead wants to see Australia benefit through World Cup success with WA a key contributor. Doubt him at your own peril.
    Sorry, gotta add some balance here. He is also a man who doesn't pay tax or royalties to aboriginal communities and lands his companies are literally blowing up digging out of the ground.
    His last name "Forrest" says it all. His wealth comes directly as a result of the fact his family were senior leadership figures and beneficiaries of the British invasion of Western Australia.

    While i think his involvement is great. It doesn't take away from his past actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalahard View Post
    Twiggy has more money undoubtedly, but people need to question what his liquid assets are, and how much of them he's willing to spend.

    Throughout his commitment to rugby, Twiggy has thrown around a lot of time, effort, and numbers, but not too much actual cash.
    What misinformed twat dared to write that. Just a couple of answers off the top of my head (without knowing the man personally or having done ANY research to support my statements)

    As Kala said $6.5 Billion Dollars, Dividends of $450 Million this year, immediately gave $400Million to UWA to fund cancer research. Committed to giving away his entire fortune in his lifetime.

    As for putting money into rugby, he's done plenty of that, Foundation Diamond member, major funding of the Future Force program, Offered to completely underwrite the Force if they were retained, organised the cover of legal fees for the appeal (offered to do it all himself, but was told no by Tony Howarth) $50 Million on the table with a binding agreement which the ARU refused to sign. Offering to sponsor the NRC because the ARU said no to buildcorp's money.....what money has he put in? Hard to say, this organisation is very fond of claiming to be approaching insolvency, but they are pretty bloody good at refusing to take money!

    It's the same as the earlier article which implied that he hadn't even been to a Force game.......that's complete bullshit!

    When will these "journalists" be held to account for the libellous tripe they print trashing Twiggy with baseless accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Sorry, gotta add some balance here. He is also a man who doesn't pay tax or royalties to aboriginal communities and lands his companies are literally blowing up digging out of the ground.
    His last name "Forrest" says it all. His wealth comes directly as a result of the fact his family were senior leadership figures and beneficiaries of the British invasion of Western Australia.

    While i think his involvement is great. It doesn't take away from his past actions
    Jono If you are after some balance then you need to do your homework on Forrest & any other mining person/company. They pay tax & royalties and you'll find all mines have agreements to pay/support local communities (whether aboriginal or not), but the issue with FMG is the agreement back in the day wasnt as good for the aboriginal communities as it should have been. And every western Australian gets benefit from the taxes/royalties he & his companies pay and if FMG didnt spend the time & money to find a way to blow up/dig out of the ground a lot of people miss out on jobs, taxes & royalties.
    I cant speak to his families history but it would seem he has done a hell of a lot more then other filthy rich Aussies in his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Sorry, gotta add some balance here. He is also a man who doesn't pay tax or royalties to aboriginal communities and lands his companies are literally blowing up digging out of the ground.
    His last name "Forrest" says it all. His wealth comes directly as a result of the fact his family were senior leadership figures and beneficiaries of the British invasion of Western Australia.

    While i think his involvement is great. It doesn't take away from his past actions
    Can we save reading that negative stuff to GAGR, the Roar or pretty much anywhere than here?

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