Terms of Reference for a Senate Inquiry into the Future of Rugby Union in Australia

[Bakkies]

Wow I thought they would have to release it!!

They do. Refusal to provide evidence is a serious offence.

[sittingbison]

Does anybody seriously believe the "massive spreadsheet" ever existed?

I thought it was obfuscattion, then became a meme

[jargan83]

The spreadsheet has gone the way of Harold Holt...

[Jules]

Does anybody seriously believe the "massive spreadsheet" ever existed?

I thought it was obfuscattion, then became a meme

Rod kafer on crap and chase said he'd seen it! While showing BS comparison slides for Force v Rebels.. (which the force seemed were mostly ahead of Rebels anyway)

[chiraag]

Just read NSWRUs submission. What a joke. They want a new governance model that gives them more power and more money.

Their argument is "we provide most of the players therefore our interests are more important than anyone elses", they also claimed that they would be providing the bulk of future players therefore deserve special arrangements. Without other states being funded to the tune NSW is, it is a no brainer they will provide most of the future players when you are actively trying to prevent competition from other states. Myopic wank.

Thanks for the heads up that there was a new submission. Just read it myself and thought it was all largely quite sensible actually. It's basically calling for a governance review since there are clearly a lot of grey areas and overlapping of responsibilities at the moment. I think providing funding based on the number of registered players and growth targets / KPI's makes sense. Having the state unions / super rugby franchises more involved with SANZAAR decisions would also be a good idea.

Not sure how relevant the submission was to this enquiry though, which they acknowledge themselves:
At the outset, NSWRU notes that it has no intention of addressing those matters within the Senate Committee’s terms of reference over which is has no purview

[Bakkies]

Thanks for the heads up that there was a new submission. Just read it myself and thought it was all largely quite sensible actually. It's basically calling for a governance review since there are clearly a lot of grey areas and overlapping of responsibilities at the moment. I think providing funding based on the number of registered players and growth targets / KPI's makes sense. Having the state unions / super rugby franchises more involved with SANZAAR decisions would also be a good idea.

Not sure how relevant the submission was to this enquiry though, which they acknowledge themselves:
At the outset, NSWRU notes that it has no intention of addressing those matters within the Senate Committee’s terms of reference over which is has no purview

The terms of reference does cover any other matters. It is also relevant to going over the 13 reviews and I have no doubt that they will recommend a complete restructure of the ARU or a new body put in place like what occurred with Soccer.

[Bakkies]

Just got a response back from the Sports Minister with today's stamp obviously in relation to the e-mail I sent to the Premier.

[Bakkies]

Tim North on now.

[Moz]

Geez....is he getting paid by the word spoken....

[Bakkies]

Geez....is he getting paid by the word spoken....

They need to get more firm to push forward their questions as we have to hear Rob Clarke soon

[BLR]

Jesus Christ, we aren't getting anything out of him. Typical lawyer waffling on about details so that the questions have to be limited.

[Bakkies]

Jesus Christ, we aren't getting anything out of him. Typical lawyer waffling on about details so that the questions have to be limited.

They will have to table the questions. He also didn't start on time.

[sandgroperrugby]

So did the alliance agreement question get asked?

[andrewg]

He also stated that the ARU were happy to leave the player welfare side of things to others.

Once ALL of Western Force personnel including players became employees of the ARU they are unable to abdicate this responsibility.

[Bakkies]

Finally gets on to the Rebels funding issues.