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    I'd like us to have teams in as many things as possible, especially if we can can get a lot of our homegrown players back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    Would you want WA to have a team in both the NRC and ARS though?
    Yes, but I suspect that any move towards ARS would be closer to TIF's understanding of what A stands for to Rat's Arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakkies View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by chibi View Post
    I'd like us to have teams in as many things as possible, especially if we can can get a lot of our homegrown players back.
    Having your top players in the NRC (if not SR) and a dev squad in the ARS would obviously be good for player development in WA. I just worry about the authenticity and significance of our national structures.

    E.g's

    - QLD and NSW have both amateur rep sides and semi-pro (NRC) country teams. Not a problem (ish) if you follow rugby, but it's not going to make much sense to an outsider or potential rugby supporter.

    - ACT & Sth NSW decided to give their NRC side the same name and strip as one of their Canberra club sides, The Vikings. Can't see that decision helping community engagement across the region.

    - ACT also has a side in both SR and NRC. Once again, non rugby regulars aren't going to get it.

    - Same with Bris City/Reds and Syd City/Tahs. We (people who follow the game) know they don't have the same roster, but they are both going to naturally engage the same community respectively. Good for player dev, bad for promoting the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    Having your top players in the NRC (if not SR) and a dev squad in the ARS would obviously be good for player development in WA. I just worry about the authenticity and significance of our national structures.

    E.g's

    - QLD and NSW have both amateur rep sides and semi-pro (NRC) country teams. Not a problem (ish) if you follow rugby, but it's not going to make much sense to an outsider or potential rugby supporter.

    - ACT & Sth NSW decided to give their NRC side the same name and strip as one of their Canberra club sides, The Vikings. Can't see that decision helping community engagement across the region.

    - ACT also has a side in both SR and NRC. Once again, non rugby regulars aren't going to get it.

    - Same with Bris City/Reds and Syd City/Tahs. We (people who follow the game) know they don't have the same roster, but they are both going to naturally engage the same community respectively. Good for player dev, bad for promoting the game.
    I think it depends on what level the ARS is aimed at, and when it's played:
    - If it's a semi-pro competition running at the same time as the NRC, then it's going to compete for the same players. There doesn't seem much point, and expand the NRC.
    - If it's semi-pro and run at a different part of the year, then I also don't see much point setting up a separate team structure; I'd just elongate the NRC to, eg, make it home and away.
    - If it's an amateur comp (and you did mention having teams from North, Central and South Queensland, NT, SA and Tassie) then the long travel involved makes the logistics difficult and expensive. But if it is national, then the inclusion of a Spirit 'B' team would be interesting.

    TBH, if it's amateur, then I'd consider the ARS to be a collection of week(?)-long 'rugby festivals', possibly coinciding with existing local festivals, held in the more 'remote' locations (remote from RA influence, eg, Townsville, Darwin, Hobart, Tamworth, Adelaide/Port Augusta). Each 'festival' includes say 3 matches for each side, preferably with some coaching sessions from professional coaches/players (see the WSR requirement for players to do 350 hours of 'community rugby' time). Each festival may have it's own champion and/or the matches count towards a larger year-long ARS championship.

    The teams from 'less-remote' areas may complain of always playing away, but they have the benefit of greater rugby infrastructure in their area, so have to suck it up, or they don't get invited back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    TBH, if it's amateur, then I'd consider the ARS to be a collection of week(?)-long 'rugby festivals', possibly coinciding with existing local festivals, held in the more 'remote' locations
    RA would never stand for it, you can't play rugby anywhere other than the sfs
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    (remote from RA influence, eg, Townsville, Darwin, Hobart, Tamworth, Adelaide/Port Augusta).
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    The teams from 'less-remote' areas may complain of always playing away, but they have the benefit of greater rugby infrastructure in their area, so have to suck it up, or they don't get invited back!
    The instant those 'less-remote' teams take a breath to whine, RA will give them everything they want, be it compensation, removing the competition, access to better players or all three plus hookers and blow. I thought you were cleverer

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    If RA revived the ARS, I think it far more likely that it would be intended as instead of, rather than as well as, an NRC team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    If RA revived the ARS, I think it far more likely that it would be intended as instead of, rather than as well as, an NRC team.
    I think that would be more appropriate.

    In saying that, I think WA is more suited to have an NRC team. Mostly because I'm not completely sold on SR, even though it's clear we can't operate without the revenue at the moment.

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