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    SANZAAR might not cut teams - South African Report

    anzaar’s plans to cut teams from the 2018 version of Vodacom Super Rugby could fall flat on its face, meaning the Southern Kings and Toyota Cheetahs may be given a reprieve.

    That is, however, if the Australian Super Rugby sides win a court case that the Melbourne Rebels have launched in Australia against the governing body to save them from being axed from the competition.

    While SA Rugby still has to announce which two sides will be cut from the 2018 version of the competition, general consensus seems to be that it is the Kings and Cheetahs that will face the chop, prompting emotion and anger in those regions.

    But the financial realities in SA Rugby mean that the national body may have no option but to cut teams and has publicly said so.

    The problem comes now with the Rebels, who are privately owned, this week launched a court case against the Australian Rugby Union (ARU) to stop the governing body from “buying back their license from them.”

    With the Western Force also threatening legal action and the Cheetahs locally reported to have sought legal advice from a senior advocate, the 2018 cut is far from a done deal.

    Sanzaar’s governing body will meet in Tokyo on Thursday in a “heads of state meeting” where the progress in the Super Rugby cuts are meant to be discussed, but Supersport.com’s information is that unless the cuts are approved in both Australia and South Africa, Sanzaar will be forced to continue with the 18-team competition until 2021.

    South Africa has already approved the cuts in SA Rugby meetings and a franchise committee is now meeting to decide by means of a weighting system which two sides will fall away, but the war in Australian rugby is far greater, with both the Rebels and Force resisting any change in the current system.

    The ARU specifically named both sides as the two in danger, while absolving the Brumbies from a cut when it held a press conference last month but both sides have rallied to save their franchises, with the Force obtaining major backing from the Western Australian government in recent times.

    Both teams feel they have “an outright case to stay in the competition”, according to The Australian newspaper, with the Force reportedly asking for an injunction as well.

    With the two Australian states getting involved – and the Victoria government now reportedly offering the same level of financial support for the Rebels as the Western Australian government, the ARU sits with a problem in trying to sort the matter out.

    But if they do lose the court case, or are unable to come to solve the impasse, all bets are off and Sanzaar will keep the same tournament structure for the foreseeable future, even though in their own words it has proved wildly unpopular.

    https://www.supersport.com/rugby/sup...t_teams_at_all

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    ...Sanzaar will keep the same tournament structure for the foreseeable future, even though in their own words it has proved wildly unpopular....]
    FFS why don't they at least adjust it to three conferences of six, C1 = 6 Saffers, C2 = 5 Oz + Sunwolves, C3 =5 UnZud + Jags

    Blind Freddy plus GIGS20 plus that saffer lady can see this is infinitely better than the current schmozzle

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    Blind Freddy plus GIGS20 plus that saffer lady can see this is infinitely better than the current schmozzle
    I didn't realise it was THAT obvious

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    Remind me again how much these "administrators" are paid to act as "keepers of the code"? If anything is financially unsustainable in all of this mess it's surely the hugely-overpaid suits at SANZAAR and the ARU!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Remind me again how much these "administrators" are paid to act as "keepers of the code"? If anything is financially unsustainable in all of this mess it's surely the hugely-overpaid suits at SANZAAR and the ARU!!
    Can you post that again, I want to like it twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Remind me again how much these "administrators" are paid to act as "keepers of the code"? If anything is financially unsustainable in all of this mess it's surely the hugely-overpaid suits at SANZAAR and the ARU!!
    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    Can you post that again, I want to like it twice
    What about if I repost it "for posterity"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Remind me again how much these "administrators" are paid to act as "keepers of the code"? If anything is financially unsustainable in all of this mess it's surely the hugely-overpaid suits at SANZAAR and the ARU!!
    The Suites, our sixth SR team, omeground Moore Park (or is it St Leonards)....cut/axe/chop/cull them it will save $6m per year which can be put back into "grassroots". It won't destroy a 'province', won't alienate fans, and won't effect ratings. Whats not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sittingbison View Post
    The Suites, our sixth SR team, omeground Moore Park (or is it St Leonards)....cut/axe/chop/cull them it will save $6m per year which can be put back into "grassroots". It won't destroy a 'province', won't alienate fans, and won't effect ratings. Whats not to like?
    Bugger that's just to simple but so true and easy

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    What a bloody shambles. it just gets worse and worse.. and I fully endorse what Alison said. She said it much better than I could

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    I don't know how much you can take from this report
    There are errors - highlighted. The Rebels have not launched legal action yet
    SANZAAR might not cut teams - South African Report

    anzaar’s plans to cut teams from the 2018 version of Vodacom Super Rugby could fall flat on its face, meaning the Southern Kings and Toyota Cheetahs may be given a reprieve.

    That is, however, if the Australian Super Rugby sides win a court case that the Melbourne Rebels have launched in Australia against the governing body to save them from being axed from the competition.

    While SA Rugby still has to announce which two sides will be cut from the 2018 version of the competition, general consensus seems to be that it is the Kings and Cheetahs that will face the chop, prompting emotion and anger in those regions.

    But the financial realities in SA Rugby mean that the national body may have no option but to cut teams and has publicly said so.

    The problem comes now with the Rebels, who are privately owned, this week launched a court case against the Australian Rugby Union (ARU) to stop the governing body from “buying back their license from them.”

    With the Western Force also threatening legal action and the Cheetahs locally reported to have sought legal advice from a senior advocate, the 2018 cut is far from a done deal.

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    So just read this article.. http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/smc...pan-australia/
    DevonLive is reporting that Parling will depart for Japan in the summer before joining an Australian Super Rugby side ahead of the new season. It is reported that he will likely join the Melbourne Rebels, which is interesting considering they are one of the clubs in contention to be axed from the competition by SANZAR.

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    ....the club would have liked to keep the 33-year-old...wanting to experience new environments as they reach the twilight of their careers...
    For superannuation Japan yes, but Super Rugby? Good luck with that

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    "Australia will inform today’s SANZAAR executive meeting in Tokyo that it is proceeding full steam ahead with plans to cut one of its five Super Rugby teams.

    While the battle to eliminate *either the Western Force or the Melbourne Rebels has been under way for more than a month, there had been thoughts that the Australian Rugby Union might be obliged to tell its SANZAAR partners that the process was so tied up in lawsuits, both real and threatened, that it was impossible to continue down that path.

    However, this week’s startling developments which saw the Rebels preparing to launch a multimillion-dollar court action against the ARU for damages to their brand, coupled with a counteroffer from the ARU to buy back the Melbourne licence from the franchise, have thrown the Australian conference into turmoil again.

    An ARU spokesman said Australia would not be making any recommendation about retaining the current 18-team competition and plans to report that it intends to keep its side of the bargain to reduce Super Rugby to 15 teams by next year.

    That presumes that South Africa is also working to cut its Super Rugby presence from six teams to four, but not even SANZAAR’s spokesman is aware how they are progressing in the republic. “That will be reported to the meeting,” the spokesman said.

    South Africa has announced that it will have the problem resolved by June, although, like Australia, it could face a legal challenge in the courts from the Cheetahs if, as expected, they are chosen as one of the teams to be culled.

    Astonishingly, SANZAAR intends making no public statement after the Tokyo meeting, although this process of shedding teams has dragged on since March and is affecting not just footballers from the nominated clubs but a wider group of players wanting to know whether they have a future at other Super Rugby clubs once players from the sacked club are distributed around the Australian franchises."

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    Again they think if they ignore the situation it will just go away.

    They need to realise it is actually real people that their decisions or in this case non-decisions affect.

    They need to come out of their protected environments and sort out the mess that they have created and that continues to snowball.

    Talk about Extreme sports this is extreme mismanagement putting the players, fans and associates on the edge of a precipice, if we wanted something like this we would follow bungee jumping or the like.

    This dismissive attitude is getting to me and I am sure many others.

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