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    ARU to Decide on Sunday.

    The board of the Australian Rugby Union will meet as early as Sunday to prepare for a vote on a 15-team model for Super Rugby.

    The meeting will be called ahead of a scheduled board meeting on Monday, where the vote is expected to take place. - Georgina Robbo

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/aru-to-vote-on-15team-model-for-super-rugby-20170407-gvg0j5.html

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    That should read ARU.....or should it?

    Bloody phone.

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    Gee , real cutting edge stuff!

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    So do they vote before, after or during our match with the Kings?

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    Time for them to make a stand and stop hiding behind the veil of secrecy #strongerasfive

    If they ditch a team its time for them to be ditched and feel the same pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    So do they vote before, after or during our match with the Kings?
    Knowing how little significance they place on us, they are probably not even aware we are playing at about the time the meeting is scheduled.

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    Why are we reading about this in a news column and not via the ARU media unit or in a statement from a board member.

    This administration has more leaks then a trump Whitehouse.

    This has to rank up there as one of the worst public relations management by a supposed professional organisation especially when your revenue is raised via the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandgroperrugby View Post
    Why are we reading about this in a news column and not via the ARU media unit or in a statement from a board member.

    This administration has more leaks then a trump Whitehouse.

    This has to rank up there as one of the worst public relations management by a supposed professional organisation especially when your revenue is raised via the public.

    Hear Hear, it has been absolutely diabolical

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    Yes it's a lesson in how not to handle PR.. I do wonder if getting rid of a PR person was one of the money saving schemes. If so i think they should review that decision. If the do have PR time to review their performance and show them the door..

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    I never thought I would see a sporting code shoot itself in the foot so much after the Super league war but here we are...

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    The ARL were going OK but were forced into that war by a ruthless multi billionaire. They had the cojones to stick tough, fight back force compromise and gain eventual victory.
    This mob are actng like deer in the spot lights

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    SANZAAR strategic review coming to a climax and it won’t end well.


    WAYNE SMITH
    The Australian

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...0014b07099a6b1

    Torturously, like having your teeth filed, the SANZAAR strategic review is building to a climax but it won’t end well for the Australian Rugby Union.

    The reality is that the review can end in one of only two ways. Either SANZAAR cuts three franchises and reduces Super Rugby to a 15-team competition, or it doesn’t, in which case we are left with the current unpalatable 18-team competition. Neither paints the ARU in a good light.

    The now universal assumption is that Scenario A was the preferred outcome all along. There was no point putting rugby through all this grief if the intention was to end up with the hodgepodge we started with. So, once again, we are forced to backtrack to the SANZAAR crisis meeting in London on March 10-11 and re-examine the ARU tactics.

    Initially, I supported the fact Australia was taking a flexible position and could adapt to changing circumstances.

    But I assumed — wrongly, as it has transpired — that, within its agile approach, the ARU was working to a strategy that had been formulated in advance. It should have known not just how many Australian teams it wanted, four or five, but also which team would be selected if any were forced to make the trip to the scaffold.

    The broad mass of Australian rugby would not have liked the idea of culling a team — it still doesn’t — but at least it would have respected the ARU for making a decisive call.

    That’s not to say there won’t still be massive ramifications. If the ARU — the ARU, mind you, not SANZAAR — choose to cut the Western Force, rugby union is dead in Western Australia. This is the nuclear option. Nothing will ever grow there again, in rugby terms. It will become a wasteland and, frankly, if the ARU decides to cast the West adrift, it might as well go all the way and reallocate the 2019 Bledisloe Cup because Perth would surely turn its back on it.

    The ARU has never publicly stated its preference for five teams or four.

    Sure, it gave vague and even not-so-vague assurances that it didn’t want to retreat from its national footprint but its actions at the London meeting and subsequently all point to it having reached the conclusion that having five teams was unsustainable.

    Very well. It’s not an argument everyone agrees with but it’s a legitimate viewpoint. But say it, damn it, don’t hide.

    If it had wanted to retain all five teams, it could have killed the London meeting stone dead.

    Australia has the power of veto in the SANZAAR joint venture and it could have opened proceedings by stating unequivocally that it would accept nothing less than the survival of all its sides. SANZAAR would then have been forced to consider whether to dump Japan and Argentina, abandon the idea of a reduced competition or to terminate the SANZAAR joint venture.

    This is about the most important decision Australian rugby will ever make and yet it has left itself in the hands of other countries, forces entirely beyond its control, before it can make it.

    If the answer is to jettison the Force, the rugby public will view it as having put foreign interests ahead of Australia’s. When it is asked why the Force are going when the Sunwolves and Jaguares survive, how will the ARU possibly answer?

    Why did it cause itself the humiliation of having to wait and see what South Africa did before enacting its plans? And then the process degenerated into farce when the South Africans insisted, out of the blue, that they were waiting on SANZAAR to tell them how many teams they had to cut, at the same time that SANZAAR was waiting on South Africa to decide whether it was prepared to cut sides.

    Oh, and by the way, South Africa wouldn’t be making a decision until Australia had. Which came as dramatic news to Australia since it was waiting on the South Africans. It’s a circular argument gone crazy and stuck in the middle of it, getting progressively dizzier, is the ARU. Who would blink first?

    Seemingly Australia, with the ARU now deciding to press ahead on the assumption that South Africa is still on the same page. That’s one hell of an assumption to make given the current state of decision-making in the republic.

    But barring unforeseen circumstances — and have there been any other kind during this whole farce? — the ARU is now determined to act independently and make a call before Monday’s AGM, with the board to meet earlier in the day.

    Not only will it vote on the structure of Super Rugby, 18 teams or 15, but, if it is the latter, then which side will be culled.

    All this will be done without any precise knowledge of whether the South Africans intend to honour their side of the bargain. It all smacks of panic, as though a delegation has barged into ARU CEO Bill Pulver’s office and demanded that he do something, anything, before the AGM.

    It’s a point I’ve made before but why weren’t decisions made ahead of the London meeting? Why on earth would rugby shoot itself in the foot by going through this process in the middle of the rugby season? But then, having done so and allowing the process to drag on interminably for a month, why is it now rushing into a decision?

    The poor Western Force. They are doing everything possible to save themselves but their fate is sealed. If an Australian team goes, it will be the Force, make no mistake.

    It’s an abomination. Has any sport ever done business this way?

    But wait ... there’s still Scenario B, where the ARU and SANZAAR take a month to decide what they’re going to do and then do absolutely nothing. The Super Rugby competition stays at 18 teams and no changes are made during the life of this broadcast deal, which ends in 2020.

    That, too, would be a disaster for the ARU. Certainly, it would come as no surprise if some of the teams whose survival has been placed in jeopardy took legal action against the ARU and SANZAAR for damage to their brand. And, make no mistake, brands have been damaged.

    Where, one wonders, does all this leave Pulver and the board? It’s a simple choice.

    They are either the villains who axed the Western Force or the ones who played the harp while Rome burned.

    Take your pick.

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    RUPA boss Ross Xenos warns ARU against ‘a calamitous decision’

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...619f49410bac69

    The Australian12:00AM April 8, 2017

    WAYNE SMITH

    Rugby Union Players Association boss Ross Xenos yesterday warned the Australian Rugby Union not to make “a calamitous decision” as the call on whether Australia will axe one of its five Super Rugby sides is due to be made tomorrow.

    The protracted SANZAAR strategic review, which began at a meeting in London a month ago, will finally reach its conclusion — at least as far as Australia is *concerned — at the ARU board meeting which will open in Sydney tomorrow ahead of the AGM on Monday.

    Two crucial votes will be taken — the first to determine what the Super Rugby structure should look like next year, with a 15-team model proposed instead of the cumbersome 18 at present; then, if the reduced competition is approved, the nine board members would vote on which Australian team is to be axed.

    While there was some conjecture yesterday that the Melbourne Rebels were back on the endangered list, it seems certain that if a team is to go it will be the Western Force. Indeed, it is understood that some of the other Super Rugby teams have already prepared press releases to that effect.

    Ironically, while the board is meeting to determine their future, the Force will be playing at home in Perth against one of the South African teams also likely to be culled, the Southern Kings.

    The entire Force playing squad have purchased whole or part-shares in the public share float to raise $5 million-$10m needed to buy back the Super Rugby licence from the ARU. But, as it currently stands, that buyback campaign looks to be a forlorn hope, as do the public protests to be staged at the Force-Kings match.

    Xenos also made one last *attempt yesterday to the ARU to maintain its five teams. “Aust*ralian rugby is not a publicly listed business and the bottom line is not the bottom line,” he said. “There are so many other critical factors in this decision which cannot be quantified by the most rigorous *financial model.

    “The benefits to the game of having a strong, professional presence in Canberra, Melbourne and Perth cannot be quantified on a P&L (profit and loss statement). There are no guarantees whatsoever that reducing the footprint of professional rugby will improve the overall financial position of Australian rugby.”

    The hypothetical argument that rugby’s appeal would remain at current levels even if a team were axed breaks down when viewed in the hard light of reality, Xenos said. “The Sea of Blue (the Force’s supporter base) are extremely loyal fans and they will be equally loyal in their hatred.”

    The fact that only two of the board members are not based in Sydney is also playing against the ARU. There is a genuine feeling that a Sydney-centric decision is at play in isolating the Force. And Xenos said there was genuine anger among Australian rugby players that the ARU was not *prioritising the interests of the game in this country ahead of its SANZAAR responsibilities.

    “Players categorically disagree with a cost-cutting and good *Samaritan approach which places the interests of SANZAAR ahead of our own. It would be hard to view the inclusion of the Sunwolves (of Japan) or the Jaguares (of Argentina) at the expense of an Australian team any other way.”

    There is still hope that the Force can be saved — though it is diminishing by the hour — but equally there is also evidence that its player list is being hungrily viewed by other franchises in the event that the ARU board votes against them.

    And while Force coach Dave Wessels insists that he is not a *candidate for the Brumbies coaching role, there are widespread *rumours that the Brumbies have delayed making an announcement of their new coach in order to offer him the job should the Perth club fold.

    The irony is that the ARU has decided to move on this issue before South Africa has made up its mind whether it is prepared to cull two teams of its own.

    There was no debate on this issue at the South African Rugby general assembly on Thursday but the ARU is acting on the belief that no news is good news and that the South Africans are still on the same page as originally planned.

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    Has Cheika shown any support for keeping the 5 teams? Don't believe I remember any comments from him at all, he's remained relatively quiet on this whole issue considering he's Wallabies coach, but also well in the ARU's pocket.

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    Interesting reference to "the public protests to be staged at the Force-Kings match"! Our banner campaign perhaps??

    Thanks for reading the site Wayne ;-)

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