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    Finally someone in the media is talking about the fact that cutting a team is putting Japan, Argentina before Australia.

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    Argentina are a part of SANZAAR these days so it wouldn't be the ARU putting Argentina first.

    Having said that, the fact that the Sunwolves have never been not even come up in discussions about culling sides is astsounding.

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    Fuck this is depressing. Can't imagine how the players are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Interesting reference to "the public protests to be staged at the Force-Kings match"! Our banner campaign perhaps??

    Thanks for reading the site Wayne ;-)
    For what its worth - I think that there is a way to show support for the Force, and for the game of Rugby without having to resort to protesting.

    I think that if we begin to bad mouth the ARU and especially if we bad mouth other teams. We lose a lot of the support we have in the east that wish for us to be retained. That would be a huge mistake.

    In 2006 we won with people power - the crowd that spelt out Super 12 for WA. in 2017 we can do it again.

    We get bums on seats, we purchase merchandise. We fill nib stadium. Even if they announce we are out - Its even more reasons why we show how strong the Sea of Blue is. The fight isnt over until the Court Cases are done. Invite friends to matches, Invite family. Invite the neighbors. If they are sports fans they will get to experience something new.

    We have to try and keep it positive. That is the key. In my very humble opinion.

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    So, if it is announced we are cut, can the players just strike for the rest of the season? Bugger the CBA, it doesn't stop unions striking worksites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exile View Post
    For what its worth - I think that there is a way to show support for the Force, and for the game of Rugby without having to resort to protesting.

    I think that if we begin to bad mouth the ARU and especially if we bad mouth other teams. We lose a lot of the support we have in the east that wish for us to be retained. That would be a huge mistake.

    In 2006 we won with people power - the crowd that spelt out Super 12 for WA. in 2017 we can do it again.

    We get bums on seats, we purchase merchandise. We fill nib stadium. Even if they announce we are out - Its even more reasons why we show how strong the Sea of Blue is. The fight isnt over until the Court Cases are done. Invite friends to matches, Invite family. Invite the neighbors. If they are sports fans they will get to experience something new.

    We have to try and keep it positive. That is the key. In my very humble opinion.

    I take your point Ex, but I'm not bad mouthing the ARU as I would not do that as it debases the message (and me). My signs say "Don't FORCE us out ARU" and "May the FORCE be with us. Always". I don't think I will do any harm with those heartfelt pleas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    Argentina are a part of SANZAAR these days so it wouldn't be the ARU putting Argentina first.

    Having said that, the fact that the Sunwolves have never been not even come up in discussions about culling sides is astsounding.
    The answer is money. Cold hard cash a-plenty in Japanese rugby. Much easier for the hard-work-averse ARU to just help themselves to that rather than try and grow the game here.

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    Just read through the bio's of the ARU board.

    We are completely screwed....

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    Yes I read them yesterday and felt the same way

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    That’s not to say there won’t still be massive ramifications. If the ARU — the ARU, mind you, not SANZAAR — choose to cut the Western Force, rugby union is dead in Western Australia. This is the nuclear option. Nothing will ever grow there again, in rugby terms. It will become a wasteland and, frankly, if the ARU decides to cast the West adrift, it might as well go all the way and reallocate the 2019 Bledisloe Cup because Perth would surely turn its back on it.
    The ARU has never publicly stated its preference for five teams or four.


    This is about the most important decision Australian rugby will ever make and yet it has left itself in the hands of other countries, forces entirely beyond its control, before it can make it.

    If the answer is to jettison the Force, the rugby public will view it as having put foreign interests ahead of Australia’s. When it is asked why the Force are going when the Sunwolves and Jaguares survive, how will the ARU possibly answer?
    ok legal action against the ARU and SANZAAR for damage to their brand. And, make no mistake, brands have been damaged.

    Where, one wonders, does all this leave Pulver and the board? It’s a simple choice.

    They are either the villains who axed the Western Force or the ones who played the harp while Rome burned.

    Take your pick.[/QUOTE]

    Well said Wayne Smith

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    Just been reminding myself of the ARU's launch of the 5-year strategic plan in April last year. A couple of quotes, including one from The Pulveriser", stick out like sore thumbs:

    “We believe there is a place in our game for all Australians.” - ARU CEO Bill Pulver.

    "Australian Rugby Union (ARU) today announced the Australian Rugby Strategic Plan for 2016-2020 underpinned by a vision “to inspire all Australians to enjoy our great global game”.

    Wish we could remind every single board member of this before they meet tomorrow to wield their bloody axe.

    http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/04...stralian-rugby

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    Argentina are a part of SANZAAR these days so it wouldn't be the ARU putting Argentina first.
    If all the press reports are accurate it bloody well is the friggin' AR-frggin'-U. They have a veto and didn't plan to use it. That is putting the jags and japs before Australia plain and simple.

    I reckon the only hope is (1) that Wayne Smith is just guessing their intentions at tomorrows meeting, (2) that the ARU has had an 11th hour epiphany and (3), they are going to use the SARU/SANZAAR filibustering as an opportunity to change course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    Just been reminding myself of the ARU's launch of the 5-year strategic plan in April last year. A couple of quotes, including one from The Pulveriser", stick out like sore thumbs:

    “We believe there is a place in our game for all Australians.” - ARU CEO Bill Pulver.

    "Australian Rugby Union (ARU) today announced the Australian Rugby Strategic Plan for 2016-2020 underpinned by a vision “to inspire all Australians to enjoy our great global game”.

    Wish we could remind every single board member of this before they meet tomorrow to wield their bloody axe.

    http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/04...stralian-rugby
    Can we get a banner of that? Might need a few more people to hold it up tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alison View Post
    I take your point Ex, but I'm not bad mouthing the ARU as I would not do that as it debases the message (and me). My signs say "Don't FORCE us out ARU" and "May the FORCE be with us. Always". I don't think I will do any harm with those heartfelt pleas.
    I dont believe that you are bad mouthing the ARU Alison, I was just (over)reacting to the word "Protest"

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    BOARD OF DIRECTORS
    Mr Cameron Clyne - Chairman
    MR CAMERON CLYNE - CHAIRMAN

    Cameron Clyne joined as a Director of the ARU in October 2013 and became Chairman in January 2016. Cameron has more than 20 years of experience in the financial services industry. A former CEO of National Australia Bank, he joined NAB in 2004 and was CEO of Bank of New Zealand before becoming Group CEO in 2009. Prior to NAB he spent 12 years with PriceWaterhouseCoopers and led the financial services practice in the Asia Pacific. He also worked in their Sydney, Melbourne, New York and San Francisco offices. Cameron was one of 245 people chosen as a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum to address global challenges including health, education and the environment in 2008. He has been involved in rugby all his life and played both a premier grade and representative level in Australia and New Zealand.

    Dr Brett Robinson – Deputy Chairman
    DR BRETT ROBINSON – DEPUTY CHAIRMAN

    Dr Brett Robinson was the inaugural captain of the ACT Brumbies in the Super 12 competition and in total, played 16 test matches for the Wallabies. From 2002 to 2005 he was the General Manager of Australian Rugby Union’s High Performance Unit. Brett is currently Deputy Chairman of the Australian Rugby Union board and represents Australia on the World Rugby Council. In addition to this, Brett is the CEO of BOQ Specialist and prior to that role he was Managing Director, CEO of Icon Cancer Care and Australian CEO for Mondial Assistance (now Allianz Global Assistance). This was preceded by executive management roles with Insurance Australia Group (IAG), with responsibility for its key brands of NRMA, CGU and Swann in QLD. He is a Chairman of the Council of Kings College at the University of Queensland and also a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors (FAICD). Healthcare has always been a key focus for Brett, having completed a medical degree at the University of Queensland, working as a surgical trainee and later completing a Doctor of Philosophy in Clinical Orthopaedics at Oxford.

    Bill Pulver – CEO of ARU
    BILL PULVER – MANAGING DIRECTOR & CEO

    Bill Pulver has been Chief Executive Officer of Australian Rugby Union since February 2013. Throughout his executive career, Bill has lived and worked in Europe, North America, Asia and Australia across a diverse range of industries including media, research, internet, sports marketing and linguistics. Bill holds a Bachelor of Commerce degree, with a major in marketing from the University of New South Wales in Sydney. His passion for Rugby dates back to his school days and he has coached junior teams. Prior to joining Australian Rugby, Bill was CEO of Appen Butler Hill (2010-2013), Chairman of Repucom International (2008-2010), President and CEO of NetRatings Inc (2001-2007) and Asia-Pacific Managing Director of ACNielsen. Bill is currently a non-executive director of Appen.

    Elizabeth Broderick AO - Director
    ELIZABETH BRODERICK AO - DIRECTOR

    Elizabeth Broderick joined the ARU Board in January 2016. She was Australian Sex Discrimination Commissioner from September 2007 until September 2015. During this time she developed the Male Champions of Change strategy, and advocated for parental leave and prevention of domestic violence. She is currently Special Advisor to the Executive Director of UN Women (New York), Global Co-Chair of Women’s Empowerment Principles Leadership Group, Senior Adviser to the Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police and is a former Member of World Bank’s Advisory Council on Gender and Development. In 2014 she was the overall winner of the 100 Women of Influence Awards and was named NSW Australian of the Year for 2016. Elizabeth holds three honorary doctorates of laws, from the University of Sydney, the University of Technology and the University of New South Wales, and was previously a partner and board member at law firm Blake Dawson (now Ashurst).

    Mr John Eales AM – Director
    MR JOHN EALES AM – DIRECTOR

    Former Wallabies captain John Eales joined the ARU Board in 2010, following a remarkable Rugby career which included 86 Test caps and Rugby World Cup VICTORIES in 1991 AND 1999. His time in the gold jersey also saw John celebrate four consecutive Bledisloe Cup victories, two Tri-Nations wins and a series triumph against the British & Irish Lions in 2001. John was the founder of the Mettle Group – a consultancy firm which was acquired by Chandler Macleod in 2007, and currently sits on the Boards of the Flight Centre Travel Group, the Australian Rugby Union, FujiXerox DMS, Palladium Group and International Quarterback.

    Pip Marlow - Director
    PIP MARLOW - DIRECTOR

    Ms Marlow grew up in Palmerston North, New Zealand, where she developed a love for Rugby at a young age. She moved to Sydney to begin her professional career, which included stints working at Samsung Information Systems and Agate Technology before joining Microsoft in 1995. At Microsoft she has held various positions across the business, including General Manager for US Channel Sales (based at Microsoft’s head office in Seattle, US), Director of Small and Medium Business Solutions and Partners, Public Sector Director, and Enterprise and Partner Group Director. She was appointed Managing Director of Microsoft Australia in January 2011. Ms Marlow is also a member of Chief Executive Women (CEW), an organisation committed to supporting and growing women in executive positions.

    Mr Paul McLean MBE – Director
    MR PAUL MCLEAN MBE – DIRECTOR

    Paul McLean joined the ARU Board in 2013 following an impressive Rugby career, which included playing for the Wallabies and receiving more than 100 caps for Queensland. Paul has held numerous off-field positions in Rugby administration, including President of the Australian Rugby Union from 2005 to 2009; Council Representative for the International Rugby Board; Chairman of the Australian Schools Rugby Union Foundation; and President of Queensland Rugby Union. Outside of Rugby, McLean is a Director of Youngcare, an organisation that works to create housing options for young Australians with high care needs, and is Managing Director for Queensland at Savills, where he was CEO from 2009-2016.

    Ann Sherry AO – Director
    ANN SHERRY AO – DIRECTOR

    Ann Sherry joined the Australian Rugby Union Board in 2012 and became its first female Board member. Ann is the Executive Chairman at Carnival Australia, the largest cruise ship operator in Australasia. She was CEO at Carnival until end 2015. Prior to this, Ann was at Westpac as CEO of Westpac New Zealand, CEO Bank of Melbourne And Group Executive of People & Performance . An advocate for women's rights, Ann was the First Assistant Secretary of the Office of the Status of Women in Canberra, advising the Prime Minister on policies and programs to improve the status of women, and was also Australia's representative to the United Nations forums on human and women's rights. She is a Board member of Sydney Airport corporation, ING Bank, Palladium and the MCA.

    Geoffrey Stooke OAM – Director
    GEOFFREY STOOKE OAM – DIRECTOR

    Geoffrey Stooke joined the ARU Board in 2012 after a long tenure as Chairman of RugbyWA from 1988 to 2011. Geoff has held senior management roles in the wool, resources, fishing and food industries, after an early career as an Officer in the Australian Regular Army – which included service in Australia and overseas. He has played and coached at national, state and club levels. At club level he has played over 850 grade games, including over 650 grade games with the Associates Rugby Club in Perth. Geoff has also held Director positions with the Australian Sports Commission, The Australian Wool Exchange, the WA Fishing Industry Council and was Chairman of the WA Rock Lobster and Prawning Association. He is currently Chairman of Troppus IT and Management Services P/L and Managing Director of Standard Wool Investments P/L.

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