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    Well yes, but it all starts with a win at home and a couple of good wins away (which would be an improvement on last year)

    To make finals a requirement too soon would be insane. I'm quite happy with 'we can't afford to lose'

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    If we can get within 5 points of the Tahs first game out. Then win at home.

    By the end of the season Finishing above 13th overall and 4th or better in the Australian Conference, for other teams in their post game interviews to say that was tough, they pushed us harder then we expected. We had to dig deep.

    I would be a very happy camper.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by zed View Post
    From a business perspective, if they can't win at home or can barely mange more than 1 or 2 wins a season then they need to fold, this is based on the assumption crowds will continue to dwindle as they continue to lose. It's unfair to expect the ARU or anyone else to sub us because we can't sell enough tickets.
    Just as well Leicester City, The Sharkies and The Western Bulldogs didn't have such lofty expectations in their infancy, just ask their fans, was it worth the wait??

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    I would like for us to win our first game of the season. We've beaten the tahs enough before, always been massive underdogs, not got the first game monkey off our backs yet. That and the first home game will be enough to see me through three or four losses after it.

    I'd like to see us finish out of the teens. 10th would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The InnFORCEr View Post
    Just as well Leicester City, The Sharkies and The Western Bulldogs didn't have such lofty expectations in their infancy, just ask their fans, was it worth the wait??
    But they never had ridiculous and unrealistic expectations. Leicester fans would have been happy just to avoid relegation. You'll always get these Hollywood stories where a team of nobodies wins the league against all odds, but they are few and far between and there is rarely any longevity in their success. Look at Leicester now battling relegation months after winning the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zed View Post
    But they never had ridiculous and unrealistic expectations.
    Sometimes there are down and lean periods, but every-body’s got to recover.

    “We’re trying to cut down those lean periods.” - Joe Barakat
    That doesn't seem too ridiculous or unrealistic to me. Sounds more like a minimum requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    That doesn't seem too ridiculous or unrealistic to me. Sounds more like a minimum requirement.
    I suppose it depends on what he means by cutting down the lean periods. I think top ten is unrealistic, we would have to improve from 2 wins to 10/11 wins. I think 4 wins is realistic. Top ten is still possible, we've lost a lot of games by only a point or two, so who knows, but yeah I think we need to aim low and hope for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zed View Post
    .... but yeah I think we need to aim low and hope for the best.
    Does that underlay the Wanneroo philosophy?

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    I think our depth is still a worry and we are missing players in key positions but now we can say we have a nice handful of international quality players;

    - Coleman/DHP/Morahan/TPN/McCalman/Hodgson. That is 6 players who are high quality.

    In previous seasons you could probably only claim McCalman and Hodgo in that category. So if these 6 players stay injury free I think we will see a good improvement and other players will benefit around them.

    I would like us to finish 3rd in the Aussie conference and the season not to be all over by week 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    not got the first game monkey off our backs yet. That and the first home game will be enough to see me through three or four losses after it.
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    We have actually got the First Round monkey off our back with a Win over the Tahs in Round 1 of 2015

    I still think we have the first home game monkey there somewhere.

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    I wasn't sure whether wed won a first game of the season yet, which is why I phrased it the way I did.

    I can still feel the monkey, we might have loosened it, but I still think it's there.

    The fact that we beat the tahs to achieve it makes it even less of a stretch to think it might be possible.

    And Barakat's line about not having the luxury of losing was accurate at the time. Remember the feeling around the future of the team was a lot bleaker then. I think he's saying that they can't afford to think about "limiting the damage" and expect to have a job in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulvio sammut View Post
    Does that underlay the Wanneroo philosophy?
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