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    England v Wallabies 2016

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wa...1703c97a384d0e

    Both good news for England, especially if Mumm stays at 6 ...
    However rumours of Jonny May, after his scrummaging exploits ... replacing Billy V appear greatly exaggerated.

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    World Rugby OK with Jones-Cheika talk

    AFP on December 1, 2016, 3:50 am




    England coach Eddie Jones and Australia counterpart Michael Cheika can continue their verbal jousting ahead of this weekend's clash at Twickenham without fear of a Jose Mourinho-style punishment, the chief executive of World Rugby told AFP on Wednesday.

    Jones and Cheika have both publicly questioned the other side's scrum, in what appear to be attempts to influence South African referee Jaco Peyper, who will be in charge on Saturday.

    "I was very interested in their scrummaging over there during the summer (in England's 3-0 series win in Australia in June) and they are welcome to come to the meeting with the referee," said former Wallaby boss Jones immediately after 14-man England's 27-14 victory over Argentina at Twickenham last Saturday.

    Cheika, who played alongside Jones at Sydney club Randwick, responded by slamming the scrum technique of England prop Dan Cole, sin-binned against the Pumas.

    "He (Jones) has got to be looking at his own players," said Cheika.

    "They are the ones who have a prop with a yellow card and that same prop's been infringing the law since his career started, probably if not all of this year.

    "It's up to the ref whether he gets influenced by that really after the guy's been boring in and falling down all of June."

    Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho was recently given a £50,000 fine by England's governing Football Association for putting "an additional layer of pressure" on referee Anthony Taylor before last month's goalless draw against Liverpool at Anfield.

    Taylor's suitability to take charge of the game was widely questioned in the build-up, mainly on account of the fact he lives in Altrincham, near Manchester.

    According to Mourinho, such talk was adding to the pressure on Taylor and making it "hard for him to have a very good performance."

    The Portuguese's comments were arguably far less contentious than anything uttered by Cheika or Jones.

    But World Rugby chief executive Brett Gosper, in a telephone interview with AFP on Wednesday, did not believe his two fellow Australians had overstepped the mark.

    - 'Hard to control what coaches say' -

    Nor did he have plans to stop coaches meeting with a referee prior to a Test -- even though Cheika said Tuesday: "I don't think the refs like those meetings."

    "It's hard to control what coaches say," said Gosper. "We have enough rules in place that any comment coaches might want to make about officiating, there are channels for them to use."

    Many within rugby union contrast their sport's respect for match officials with the 'free-for-all' that sees football referees often engulfed by a mob of angry players every time they make a decision.

    Gosper himself came under fire after World Rugby issued a statement following Australia's dramatic World Cup quarter-final win over Scotland at Twickenham last year that said South African referee Craig Joubert had make a mistake in awarding the Wallabies what turned out to be a match-clinching penalty with seconds to spare.

    "We want the value preserved that there isn't public criticism of the referee. It's a standard we hold very highly," Gosper said Wednesday.

    Jones, Australia's coach when they lost the 2003 World Cup final to England, made his comments about the Wallaby scrum following what was a 'two-hour Test' against the Pumas, even though matches are only supposed to last 80 minutes.

    But in an international involving two red cards, French referee Pascal Gauzere -- widely considered to have had a good game -- found himself stopping the clock to call upon the television match official.

    Having initially been deployed mainly to help referees determine whether a try had been scored, the TMO now often advises the on-field referee regarding foul play, offside and off-the-ball incidents.

    All this leads to delays, with various angles studied in the most serious incidents.

    "The TMO is always a work in progress. We're trying to make sure it doesn't take up too much time," said Gosper.

    Figures produced by World Rugby indicate the average length of time for a TMO referral is about 74 seconds, and there are about 2.4 referrals per game on average.

    Nigel Owens, the referee for last year's World Cup final, where New Zealand beat Australia, recently voiced concerns that excessive use of the TMO had encouraged players to question decisions.

    "It's not engraved in stone, changes (to what the TMO does) can be made," Gosper told AFP.

    "You do trade time for the correct decision to a certain extent but we want to get there as quickly as possible."

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    Anyone know a good site to live stream the game to a phone?

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    Great game, Fucken battled right through to the 80!

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    Wallabies all over the soap dodgers in the first 15 minutes.

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    England must have entered a god mode cheat code at half time. Can do no wrong in the second half.

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    Phipps is a spanner.

    I know I am telling you guys nothing new.

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    15 for England should be playing Soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    15 for England should be playing Soccer.
    Agreed. That must be one of the softest yellow cards in the history of yellow cards!

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    Yarde clearly knocked on not sure what video ref was watching
    Phipps crap and yellow card soft but still would have lost
    Will be a shame when poms break world record without playing all blacks. Hopefully they manage to lose to France or Wales so they don't get it

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    Frustrating after a good start, agree crap yellow on DHP. Not happy with ref but too many mistakes to blame the game on him.

    Why when we have a penalty we slowly set up (letting opposition get into position) instead of playing on quickly and catching em off guard equally being said why aren't we expecting opposition to play on quickly where they continually catch us off guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo86 View Post
    Frustrating after a good start, agree crap yellow on DHP. Not happy with ref but too many mistakes to blame the game on him.

    Why when we have a penalty we slowly set up (letting opposition get into position) instead of playing on quickly and catching em off guard equally being said why aren't we expecting opposition to play on quickly where they continually catch us off guard.
    If we haven't learnt how to play Jaco Pepper yet, we don't deserve to get the rub of the ref decisions. We see far more of him than the poms do, so how can't we adapt to his reffing style (eclectic though it is!)?

    As to the quick-tap penalties. Plenty of those in the NRC, but Wallabies are above all that, aren't they!

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    Great first 25 mins or so then just flopped. Phipps his usual indecisive self. Bench as much use as a chocolate tea pot. YC stupid from DHP after a good tour from him. Lots of poor calls from the whole ref team but I don't believe that had any bearing on the result.
    Hopefully next year we have the Wallabies and not the Wallathas!

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    It would have been nice of Ben Youngs to take his quick Tap where the Penalty was given....

    or the Prop that disrupted Phipps causing a turnover and try.....

    Yarde knocked on is the act of not scoring a try.

    and Pococks pass to Joseph was a mile forward........

    Yarde dropping like a soccer player and flopping around like an untrained seal was a disgrace.

    BUT England won - congratulations.

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