Dear Mr Foley

[wholetruth]

Who's Stonefish?

My question too

[wholetruth]

Foley was tried and proven apparently and it is clearly not working. Having a so called 'name' is folly. Chris Boyd took over from hurricanes last year who were in disarray after hammets tenure,and coached them to a grand final, previously he wasn't tried and proven but a good Wellington man! Rennie took over the Chiefs (previously an assistant with hurricanes) at super level made changes to the players and won a comp twice, he wasn't tried and proven at super level. Jamie Joseph took over highlanders and struggled, he wasn't tried and proven at super level. Coached Wellington B for awhile then Wellington,
So you don't know unless you give coaches a go!! Not saying Fearn is the answer but he has at least coached professional players for quite a while now.

And therein lies the problem not just for the Force but Aus teams in general.
All those Kiwi coaches were coaching (I stand to be corrrected) professional or at least semi-professional outfits before they went to Super Rugby.
We don't have either the professional outfits or the coaches. (OK so Bernie is proving me wrong but he's the exception to the rule)

[whodunnit]

And therein lies the problem not just for the Force but Aus teams in general.
All those Kiwi coaches were coaching (I stand to be corrrected) professional or at least semi-professional outfits before they went to Super Rugby.
We don't have either the professional outfits or the coaches. (OK so Bernie is proving me wrong but he's the exception to the rule)

Yep what's fern be doing then? Coaching professional teams. Apart from nedlands. Looked up Dave Rennie, after he was shafted from hurricanes he went and coached a club u/20 side.
Shy way whatever but something needs to happen!

[wholetruth]

How embarrassing is this possibility. We were the first to lose to the Kings and could be the first to lose to the Sunwolves.

[sevenmile]

Foley was tried and proven apparently and it is clearly not working. Having a so called 'name' is folly. Chris Boyd took over from hurricanes last year who were in disarray after hammets tenure,and coached them to a grand final, previously he wasn't tried and proven but a good Wellington man! Rennie took over the Chiefs (previously an assistant with hurricanes) at super level made changes to the players and won a comp twice, he wasn't tried and proven at super level. Jamie Joseph took over highlanders and struggled, he wasn't tried and proven at super level. Coached Wellington B for awhile then Wellington,
So you don't know unless you give coaches a go!! Not saying Fearn is the answer but he has at least coached professional players for quite a while now.

It needs to be someone that is feared in the board room as well as in the changing room
You can't compare NZ coaching setups to AUS as they have the support of the NZRFU and are a united front reguardless of results the support is solid between all franchises
Rennie had Wellington NPC and Nz under 20s and baby sat by wayne smith
Boyd has had Wellington NPC and results varied but still supported
Hammett took Cains with reasonable results on the field but terrible attitude off and turned it around handing the platform to Boyd who I would see as plumtrees puppet
Hammett left of his own volition and is moulding a team from nothing into a side that is enjoying itself and entertaining its fans
Kirwan supported by NZRFU until he worked it out himself
This is not a franchise that can live in hope anymore it needs a top line figure head from Australia
The ARU.should be working this out behind the scenes and sinderberry should be begging for support behind the scences otherwise you should shut it down

[whodunnit]

It needs to be someone that is feared in the board room as well as in the changing room
You can't compare NZ coaching setups to AUS as they have the support of the NZRFU and are a united front reguardless of results the support is solid between all franchises
Rennie had Wellington NPC and Nz under 20s and baby sat by wayne smith
Boyd has had Wellington NPC and results varied but still supported
Hammett took Cains with reasonable results on the field but terrible attitude off and turned it around handing the platform to Boyd who I would see as plumtrees puppet
Hammett left of his own volition and is moulding a team from nothing into a side that is enjoying itself and entertaining its fans
Kirwan supported by NZRFU until he worked it out himself
This is not a franchise that can live in hope anymore it needs a top line figure head from Australia
The ARU.should be working this out behind the scenes and sinderberry should be begging for support behind the scences otherwise you should shut it down

Sit it down then as Australia don't have no one!

[sevenmile]

Laurie fisher / Ewan McKenzie / rod McQueen and a bolter Mick Byrne David nucifora

[whodunnit]

Laurie fisher / Ewan McKenzie / rod McQueen and a bolter Mick Byrne David nucifora

All ridiculous bar one, fisher contracted in Europe, Mckenzie maybe if he would come back to oz rugby, McQueen done and dusted, Byrne ex afl predominately skills coach, nucifora - check his u/20's results who also got the sack from brumbies and blues!!!

[shasta]

Robbie Deans, Todd Blackaddder, Graeme Henry,.....shit this is easy....Dave Brockhoff, Alan Jones, Wayne Bennett. ....

[GIGS20]

While were throwing names out there

Warren Gatland Eddie Jones, Michael Cheika.

Wow isn't it easy when unencumbered by reality.

We should also sign some new players.

Dan Carter, Augustin Creevy, Shane Williams, John Eales.

[whodunnit]

While were throwing names out there

Warren Gatland Eddie Jones, Michael Cheika.

Wow isn't it easy when unencumbered by reality.

We should also sign some new players.

Dan Carter, Augustin Creevy, Shane Williams, John Eales.

Exactly, remember tho they need to be Australian!!!!!!!

[jargan83]

Robbie Deans, Todd Blackaddder, Graeme Henry,.....shit this is easy....Dave Brockhoff, Alan Jones, Wayne Bennett. ....

Des Hasler...

[wholetruth]

Elwee Prinsloo, Dwayne Nestor...oh no that's right they are already a success at the WF

[whodunnit]

Elwee Prinsloo, Dwayne Nestor...oh no that's right they are already a success at the WF

Hahahaha! Winner!

[BeeJay]

Our Marquee players are not that flash - Peter Grant looks like he should have retired last year. Hell, we dragged him out of Japan - the retirement league.

IF we had to rate our players as to where they would rank in the overall scheme of things. AS in #1 - is best player in Australia for that position our Squad would average 6 or 7 , and if there are only 5 Super Rugby teams in Australia, that means there are players that would rather sit on the bench all year for the Reds then play for us.

Its not the coaches fault that we cant win games against the top 2 or 3 teams in New Zealand. We don't have the talent in our playing ranks to do beat them.

We can try and recruit them - but, we cant afford them, hell I hear Twiggy Forrest is about to have a garage sale.

Its not the coaches fault if our squad doesn't have the ability to create line breaks, Its not the coaches fault that we don't have players that can bust thru tackles at will. Players either have that ability or they dont - and the ones that do - play for someone else.

Exile, ever the voice of reason.