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    Thought dump. Injury concerns giteau, izzy and pocock. I have no nails left what a defensive effort. Gatland gutted. Big dog great try saver. Kane Douglas was awesom and well worth all the kerfuffle before the tournament.

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    Well done Wallabies! Not thoroughly decisive but still a win! With 13 men only for a while great defence! Worth staying up for! Scotland here we come!

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    Just re-watched the game and Ben McCalman was definitely heroic in this game. He stood out in a game where many put their hands up and were counted.

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    Very proud of them! Hope the injuries are not serious though!! :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIGS20 View Post
    There is a possibility that match could be a dress rehearsal for the final.
    Can't see Wales making it past South Africa, as they've been improving through the tournament, and certainly not past New Zealand if they can't score against 13 Wallabies when they have a very helpful ref.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    if they can't score against 13 Wallabies when they have a very helpful ref.
    Wales couldn't score in a brothel with several $100 notes hanging out of their zipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jargan83 View Post
    Wales couldn't score in a brothel with several $100 notes hanging out of their zipper.
    Why are you so unkind?

    IMO ZA are too old and have not been truly tested. Yet have been found wanting against Japan. I definitely think Wales can beat them.

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    ah,Kamal-quite right,South Africa are vulnerable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheikh View Post
    Can't see Wales making it past South Africa, as they've been improving through the tournament, and certainly not past New Zealand if they can't score against 13 Wallabies when they have a very helpful ref.
    I think South Africa have shown a weakness against Japan that will be found out in the quarter finals, i also thing Ireland will beat France and that will set up a quarter final match with New Zealand. New Zealand are always vulnerable in the knockout rounds of an away World Cup and particularly vulnerable to France....

    Put it this way. I think the Wallabies have managed an easy enough road to the final to be a safe bet, if the All Blacks aren't eliminated before them I think we'll lose it. I'm crossing all my fingers and toes for the All Blacks to get knocked out in the quarters and France are the only team in their way who have any history of knocking them off at crucial times.

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    The Wallabies survive the Welsh flood

    G&GR Matt Rowley in his “Guts gets the glory” article gave a good summary of this game:
    Wales had done their homework on Australia and used rush defence together with flooded breakdowns to disrupt the Wallabies pattern of play. Aerial bombardment got the men in red the territory they needed and if it hadn’t been for another monumental scrummaging effort from both Australian front rows they might have been able to make that pay.

    Wales dominated Possession (60%) and Territory (63%) throughout the game but didn’t score after the 33 minute mark.

    In the second half, with even more dominance (Possession 64%/Territory 68%) and the Wallabies down to 13 men for 8 minutes and 14 men for an additional 6 minutes, they were unable to breach the Wallaby defence.

    The Wallabies made 134 tackles and missed only 11 (92%) against Wales 84/15 (85%). Wales disrupted the Wallaby maul to the extent that it was ineffective and the Wallaby Lineout seemed always under pressure.

    The “battle at the breakdown” was a key feature of this match. The Wallabies won 52 of 56 rucks (93%) and Wales 77 from 85 (91%). Total Turn Overs were Wallabies 11:9 Wales. Turn Overs by Forwards were Wallabies 5:3 Wales.

    The Ruck Involvement statistics show how Wales was committed to not giving the Wallabies any easy ball and the Wallaby playmakers little time and space.

    RUCK INVOLVEMENTS

    Remember:
    1. Early means 1st or 2nd of player’s team AFTER the ball carrier has been tackled and brought to ground.
    2. Impact means active engagement: strong physical contact, changed shape of ruck, clean-out, protecting ball etc. (more than hand on someone’s bum or arriving after the hard work has been done). Yes it’s subjective - but as I collect all data at least it’s consistent.
    3. Impact DOES NOT equate to Effectiveness. I’ve concluded that coming up with an effectiveness measure is just too hard in the time that I have available – but open to suggestions.


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    1. Over the match the Wales Forwards had 40% more Ruck Involvements than the Wallaby Forwards.
    2. Wales had a specific focus of protecting their own ball carriers and negating the impact of the Wallaby “fetchers” while being very selective in Defensive rucks in order to strictly maintain their own defensive line.
    3. Wales Forwards Defensive Ruck involvements were only 13% of Total Ruck Involvements. The half-by half breakdown was 20% and 7%. Wales standing off Defensive Rucks was very noticeable after the main break.
    4. By comparison, Wallaby Forwards Defensive Ruck involvements were 38% of Total Ruck involvements. This level was maintained throughout the match. This is the highest level of engagement under Cheika.
    5. Wales Backs contributed only 16% of their teams Total Ruck involvements.
    6. Wallaby Backs contributed 23% of their teams Total Ruck involvements.
    7. Defensive Ruck involvement was the clear focus of Fardy, Pocock, Sio and Moore and Ashley-Cooper. Both Fardy and Pocock earned 2 TOW. Mumm 1TOW. Replacements McCalman and Holmes maintained this pressure.
    8. For Wales Defensive Ruck involvements were from Warburton (1 TOW), Tipuric (1 TOW), Charteris (1 TOW) and James.
    9. Both Front Rows contributed about 32% of their team’s Total Ruck involvements.
    10. 4 Wales players had same/more ruck involvements than the Wallaby best. Tipuric also had top tackles for Wales (13/1).
    11. Douglas (15/0), Fardy (13/0), Pocock (10/1) and Mumm (9/1) were the Wallaby top tacklers.
    12. All of the Wallaby Forward replacements made strong contributions. However, McCalman put in a mighty defensive effort for his 32 mins off the bench with 15 Total Ruck involvements (6D/9D) and 9/0 tackles. He also had 6 runs for 10m.

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    Comments:
    1. The Wallabies were obviously initially rattled by the intensity of Wales after the opening whistle.
    2. Wales had more than double the Wallaby Ruck Involvements during the opening 20 minutes.
    3. The Wallabies were struggling to get their hands on the ball and were being worked-over at set pieces.
    4. However, by the 2nd quarter of the game, the Wallabies had gained scrum dominance and were out-rucking Wales. By 36 minutes the Wallabies were ahead 9:6. Wales did not score again.
    5. Wales attempted to fight back in the 3rd quarter and with strong possession worked hard to protect their ball carriers. Again their Ruck involvements were nearly double that of the Wallabies.
    6. The Wales onslaught during the period of the Wallaby Yellow Cards (56-70 minutes) is clearly evident with some mighty efforts by the Wales Forwards. Big efforts from Charteris, Francis (from off the bench), Tipuric Felatau, Warburton and James.
    7. Fardy, Pocock and Ashley Cooper and replacements McCalman and Slipper were standouts during this period.
    8. The Wallabies increased their Ruck Involvements in the 2nd half by 20% in response to Wales lifting theirs by 40%. For Wales this was due to possession and their strong support of ball carriers. For the Wallabies it was through stoic defence and hard work.
    9. Douglas, Mumm and those off the bench led the Wallaby effort for the final 10 minutes.

    Looking Ahead
    With wins over England and Wales, the Wallabies are entitled to consider Twickenham as home turf for this RWC.
    The Wallabies are likely to have to defeat all 4 “Home Nations” if they are to make the final.

    However, even Semi-Finals between Rugby Championship teams is possible.

    Other teams will learn from the Wales game plan as a way of countering the Wallaby play-makers. However, once Wales lost any scrum dominance it was never going to hold back the Wallabies. The Wallabies will need to develop more effective counter measures more quickly.

    I am still concerned about the relatively low ruck involvements of the Wallaby Front Row compared to other top-tier teams. In my view this places an unreasonable work load on our Back Row and restricts their opportunities for more linking/open play.

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    Saw you posted this on GAGR too Andrew, well done

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    Pocock gets Warning

    From the RWC website:

    JUDICIAL
    Disciplinary update - Citings and Citing Commissioner Warnings

    Three players have been cited or received Citing Commissioner Warnings after matches on 10 October

    12/10/2015 01:01 GMT
    Disciplinary update - Citings and Citing Commissioner Warnings

    The following players have been cited or received Citing Commissioner Warnings after matches on 10 October.

    Ross Ford and Jonny Gray (Scotland) - Citing

    Ross Ford and Jonny Gray (Scotland) have been cited by independent Citing Commissioner Scott Nowland (Australia) for an alleged act of foul play contrary to Laws 10.4(e) and 10.4(j) during the Rugby World Cup 2015 Pool B match between Samoa and Scotland at St James’ Park, Newcastle, on Saturday, 10 October. Law 10.4(e) deals with dangerous tackles and Law 10.4(j) deals with lifting tackles.

    The hearing will take place at 11:00 on Tuesday, 12 October, at the offices of RWC 2015 official law firm Clifford Chance in London. The case will be heard by independent Judicial Officer Christopher Quinlan QC (England).

    David Pocock (Australia) - Citing Commissioner Warning

    David Pocock (Australia) has received a Citing Commissioner Warning from independent Citing Commissioner Steve Hinds (New Zealand) for a breach of Law 10.4(a) during the Rugby World Cup 2015 Pool A match between Australia and Wales at Twickenham on Saturday, 10 October.

    Under the Rugby World Cup 2015 disciplinary programme, a Citing Commissioner Warning equates to a yellow card for the purposes of sanction. A combination of three yellow cards or Citing Commissioner Warnings accumulated during the tournament will result in a hearing. Pocock is therefore free to play in Australia’s quarter-final against Scotland.


    Rule 10.4 (a) is:

    Punching or striking. A player must not strike an opponent with the fist or arm, including the elbow, shoulder, head or knee(s).


    This arises from:

    WALLABY David Pocock faces a nervous wait ahead of the quarter-final with Scotland with suggestions he could be cited for kneeing Welsh opponent Scott Baldwin.

    The incident occurred in the 10th minute of the Wallabies’ epic 15-6 win over Wales, and went unnoticed by both the on field officials and the TMO during the match.

    With Wales pressing the Australian line early Pocock became entangled in a ruck with his left leg caught under opposing flanker Justin Tipuric.

    As he frees himself the Wallabies fetcher raises his right knee into the ribs of Baldwin.

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    What POCOCK..?????. Wallaby POCOCK...?????? Harming someone on purpose.. whatever next.. ??? Surely not... He turns the other cheek.....

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    It was borderline from the visiOn I saw, it looks more like he got tangled up trying to free himself from being held in a ruck after the ball had moved on.

    I don't so much mind that stuff like this is looked at by citing officers, but it makes Sam Burgess' mugging of Michael Hooper with complete impunity even more of a crock.

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