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    Try.

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    Brilliant try, huge effort, 5 Canes came into contact with him and he still scored. I loved it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
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    I watched it again today and it was close as close can be

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    Try. What an effort. Even if it wasn't he deserved it! Have watched it 6/7 times and really can't say it's not.

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    My first thought was that the defender's foot got in the way.
    But the scoresheet says otherwise.
    Huge effort to get over the line from where he got the pill.

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    best game i have seen for a long time credits must go to the players ref and touchies for a great game trouble is how are the wallabies going to beat that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecky View Post
    My first thought was that the defender's foot got in the way.
    Did the foot get in the way, or was it a desperate kick? (must be honest, only saw a few minutes of the match).

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    I thought the ball grazed off the boot then touched down. Very hard to see from the camera angles shown.

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    Outstanding performance by both teaks and Highlanders really proved they are a Champion Team and not a team of champions. Just remember they finished 14th a few years ago, so there is hope for us yet!

    Any chance of getting Tony Brown as an Assistant Coach, he's the brains trust down South and JJ brings it all together.

    Wonder if there is any Speights left in the deep dark south of NZ today

    Well deserved winners

    Try! See evidence below.

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    Referee Review: Highlander Elliot Dixon's try, just a pinky in it video

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    Last updated 12:58, July 6 2015


    Boot, grass or both? Super Rugby final man of the match Elliot Dixon scores a controversial try.

    Elliot Dixon did his best 'out-of-control-bulldozer' impression on Saturday night when ploughing through six defenders on his way to the try line.

    By the time the Hurricanes defenders had brought Dixon to ground he was within reaching distance of the line.

    I almost choked on my Pringles watching Dixon storm his way to the line, but then came that grounding.

    Placing the ball on Nehe Milner-Skudder's ankle, the ball then rolled toward the turf, but did Dixon force the ball to the ground?

    Did TMO Ben Skeen make the right decision in awarding the try.

    First of all, here are the World Rugby laws on what a player must do to score a try.

    Law 22.1 states: "There are two ways a player can ground the ball:

    "(a) Player touches the ground with the ball. A player grounds the ball by holding the ball and touching the ground with it, in in-goal. 'Holding' means holding in the hand or hands, or in the arm or arms. No downward pressure is required.

    "(b) Player presses down on the ball. A player grounds the ball when it is on the ground in the in-goal and the player presses down on it with a hand or hands, arm or arms, or the front of the player's body from waist to neck inclusive."

    You'll note the 'C' word isn't in the law at all, so despite it being a buzzword when discussing the grounding of a ball, we won't be asking if Dixon had 'control' of the ball.

    Instead it seems simple. Was Dixon holding the ball while it was in contact with the ground. If not, did he press down on the ball when it was in contact with the ground?

    When Dixon first slams the ball onto Milner-Skudder's ankle, he is holding the ball, but the impact jars the ball loose.

    Dixon remained in contact with the ball as it rolled toward the turf, but did he stay in contact when the ball hit the ground?

    There's a pinky and millimetres in it. Dixon's pinky is the last part of his hand touching the ball as it nears the ground, but given the way the ball rotates in mid-air, it doesn't appear to have come in contact with the ground.

    Did the ball flick a blade of grass. I don't think so.

    Everyone has their own opinion, but for me, Dixon didn't have any contact with the ball when it eventually hit the ground, therefore it should have been a knock-on.

    That doesn't mean Skeen was wrong, however.

    As former referee Jonathan Kaplan stated after the incident, the TMO must see separation between the ball and the ground not to award the try.

    I can't fault Skeen for deciding there was no separation. That's how tight the call was.

    By the laws of the game, and the way TMOs are told to make those calls, Skeen appears to have made a sound decision.

    If rugby had a clear law stating that in TMO decisions benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking side, nobody would have a problem with that try being awarded.

    Maybe that's something the powers that be should look at.

    As for calls that Milner-Skudder deliberately kicked the ball out of Dixon's hand, I know Milner-Skudder is talented, but surely not so talented that he can predict where to place his ankle to prevent a try.

    Lastly, referee Jaco Peyper was brilliant on Saturday night.

    The match will go down as one of the great Super Rugby games and it wouldn't have happened without Peyper being in the middle.

    Referees readily admit that they could give a penalty at almost every ruck, maul, scrum and lineout, but it takes common sense from the officials to allow the game to flow.

    Peyper did exactly that, playing his part in a great game of rugby.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/s...-a-pinky-in-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by shasta View Post
    Outstanding so far. Highlanders just hit the lead. Hope they stay there. The WF of the NZ conference.
    So True...Inspiring performance..and a great game of rugby.. the commentary was very professional too.. Well done NZ all round..

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